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Post subject: Re: Forgotten Bizjets  Posted: 27 Oct 2024, 13:54 |
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I remember seeing the engine test bed for the Lear 35. It was a 20 series Lear with the original cj610 on the right and a tfe 731 on the left. Looked crazy at first but the experimental and restricted labels on the side gave it away.
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Post subject: Re: Forgotten Bizjets Posted: 27 Oct 2024, 16:34 |
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Username Protected wrote: I remember seeing the engine test bed for the Lear 35. It was a 20 series Lear with the original cj610 on the right and a tfe 731 on the left. Looked crazy at first but the experimental and restricted labels on the side gave it away. We had a similar testbed for the 750 at Cessna, a 650 with the Allison engine on one side.
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Post subject: Re: Forgotten Bizjets Posted: 27 Oct 2024, 16:59 |
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Username Protected wrote: I remember seeing the engine test bed for the Lear 35. It was a 20 series Lear with the original cj610 on the right and a tfe 731 on the left. Looked crazy at first but the experimental and restricted labels on the side gave it away. We had a similar testbed for the 750 at Cessna, a 650 with the Allison engine on one side.
I saw a picture of it one time many years ago and thought it was super cool, although I’ve not been able to find a picture of it since. Would be cool if a picture would resurface!
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Post subject: Re: Forgotten Bizjets Posted: 27 Oct 2024, 20:18 |
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Username Protected wrote: I remember seeing the engine test bed for the Lear 35. It was a 20 series Lear with the original cj610 on the right and a tfe 731 on the left. Looked crazy at first but the experimental and restricted labels on the side gave it away. "Looked crazy" Maybe no more crazy than this. The 747 can carry a fifth engine inboard of number two on a pylon, but it's for ferry of the engine, not for use.
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Post subject: Re: Forgotten Bizjets Posted: 28 Oct 2024, 08:02 |
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Username Protected wrote: I remember seeing one or two Hansa jets at Kalitta's base in Morristown, TN in the late 80s.
A friend of mine flew one back then (not Kalitta's) and said it was a pig, same engines as a LR24 but weighed about 4000 lbs more. (guestimate). My old boss flew the Hansa for Connie for a while. He said the exact same thing about the performance. He did add that it was super easy to fly.
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Post subject: Re: Forgotten Bizjets Posted: 28 Oct 2024, 09:31 |
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Username Protected wrote: What was that one super oddball business jet (Maybe French) that those guys crashed after they couldn't get both started and tried to do a windmill start on the roll... It was a while back. Cant remember what that was.
Tj Yes, the Corvette, back in 98' out of PDX (Portland, OR). I was at the then FlightCraft FBO when this guy decide to try this. Couple pilots/mechanics tried to talk him out of it, no luck. I was preflighting the Merlin III when the accident happened. They survived. Sad loss of a cool jet. Russell
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Post subject: Re: Forgotten Bizjets Posted: 28 Oct 2024, 11:45 |
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Former Air Force 1.
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Post subject: Re: Forgotten Bizjets Posted: 07 Nov 2024, 16:59 |
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Username Protected wrote: Former Air Force 1. Supposedly called "Air Force 1/2" by LBJ. My first instructor in the JetStar had flown them in the 89th Airlift Wing. He had great stories about both the aircraft and the VIP pax. I was lucky enough to fly JetStar IIs and 731 JetStars for four years. Amazingly reliable and great flying aircraft, especially considering the prototype was designed and flown in 1957. Greg
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Post subject: Re: Forgotten Bizjets Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 00:32 |
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I found a photo of the Cessna 650/Allison testbed online. I could not get either the photo or a link to insert properly. Mr. Google should be able to find it.
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Post subject: Re: Forgotten Bizjets Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 06:54 |
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One survives at the Museum of Flight restoration facility @ Paine Field: https://aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeDossie ... rial=59379Attachment: IMG_2561.jpeg Attachment: IMG_2563.jpeg
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