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Not trying to defend the guy Mike but his "explanation" in the last video was basically as follows. He wants the balance to be near perfect for testing purposes to eliminate questions about whatever data is produced during the flight or flights should he get to make more than one. He said in the video real world such things would not be needed but for testing going to these extremes are worth the effort. Are they? I have no idea. I have never built an airplane or been a test pilot.

He's not explaining anything to the educated people watching. He's justifying his decisions. 37 pounds extra on one gear leg won't cause what he thinks is "torsional roll". Every time you burn fuel, fly solo, or carry passengers, lateral and longitudinal weight changes. I know he has weighed it, but did he ever determine where the CG was? He's trying to look through the forrest to see the ocean.


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He’s looking for reasons not to fly it.


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He’s looking for reasons not to fly it.

One would hope. I’m ashamed of the morbidity that makes me want to see him try to fly it.

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He’s looking for reasons not to fly it.

One would hope. I’m ashamed of the morbidity that makes me want to see him try to fly it.


Better him than some other poor soul. He is about to learn a hard lesson on why you pay a test pilot. It says it all when the idiot wears a flight suit. But, doesn’t wear a helmet during testing.

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I rode over to visit todaY, but he was not in. The FBO will call me next time he is out.


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He's justifying his decisions. 37 pounds extra on one gear leg won't cause what he thinks is "torsional roll".

Would not “torsional roll”, by definition, be caused by torque, not uneven weight?


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He's justifying his decisions. 37 pounds extra on one gear leg won't cause what he thinks is "torsional roll".

Would not “torsional roll”, by definition, be caused by torque, not uneven weight?

with the addition of enough weight, the tires will remain in contact with the runway, and that contact with the runway can counter-act the engine torque.

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with the addition of enough weight, the tires will remain in contact with the runway, and that contact with the runway can counter-act the engine torque.

Duh. Very enlightening point. I love this site. I’m always learning stuff!


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Peter has been pretty quiet lately. Anyone hear any updates? I keep looking at crashTalk but nothing. Haha


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Peter has been pretty quiet lately. Anyone hear any updates? I keep looking at crashTalk but nothing. Haha


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It looks the reason is probably the wind and rain for the past several days in Valdosta.


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Peter has been pretty quiet lately. Anyone hear any updates? I keep looking at crashTalk but nothing. Haha


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Hurricane Sally


That was his opportunity to do some Wind Tunnel testing for free. Just need to provide a container. :peace:

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It’s been almost a week since the last video. That is unusual for sure. I hope something has not happened. Hopefully just weather related.


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He said in his last video that he was going to wait for mild wind conditions and that that if we didn’t see a new video for a while that’s why. With the hurricane nearby I’m guessing that it’s too windy/rainy/cloudy and he’s just hunkered down, maybe epoxying some other heavy component into the airframe.

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