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Post subject: Re: Stratos 716  Posted: 04 Nov 2019, 00:57 |
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Username Protected wrote: With all the interest in the SF50, has the Stratos been discussed here at all? IMO this is a very intriguing jet. FL370 in 17 min, 1500 nm range and over 400 ktas in a single engine. Wake me up when it’s certified and available for purchase...
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Post subject: Re: Stratos 716 Posted: 04 Nov 2019, 00:57 |
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Username Protected wrote: With all the interest in the SF50, has the Stratos been discussed here at all? IMO this is a very intriguing jet. FL370 in 17 min, 1500 nm range and over 400 ktas in a single engine. Wake me up when it’s certified and available for purchase...
They are building the 716X right now.
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Post subject: Re: Stratos 716 Posted: 04 Nov 2019, 01:06 |
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Username Protected wrote: They are building the 716X right now. Not certified, not available to purchase... I would be shocked if they get anywhere in the ballpark of certification, the SF50 almost bankrupted Cirrus and they had the large resource base and cash flow of a going concern selling lots of SRs.
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Post subject: Re: Stratos 716 Posted: 05 Nov 2019, 18:54 |
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Username Protected wrote: Saw this at OSH, super nice and well made. The problem I see is how on earth are they going to find surplus JT15D-5s laying around to make this project work in any sort of volume. I had the same question. They said the PW535E will be the engine for certification. Not sure why the Pratt over the FJ44-4
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Post subject: Re: Stratos 716 Posted: 09 Nov 2019, 14:31 |
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Username Protected wrote: Thye want 2.5+M for the experimental version.
Why not just buy an SF50....
Or a slightly used <insert huge list of turbines less than $2.5M>
2M buys a about 2666 hrs of Jet-A at 150 gal/hr. Where did you hear about the purchase price for the experimental? I've been trying to get details on that and haven't been able to.
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Post subject: Re: Stratos 716 Posted: 10 Nov 2019, 02:20 |
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Username Protected wrote: Thye want 2.5+M for the experimental version.
Why not just buy an SF50....
Or a slightly used <insert huge list of turbines less than $2.5M>
2M buys a about 2666 hrs of Jet-A at 150 gal/hr. Where did you hear about the purchase price for the experimental? I've been trying to get details on that and haven't been able to.
They told me $2.5M to have it complete and flying.
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Post subject: Re: Stratos 716 Posted: 10 Nov 2019, 09:16 |
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Username Protected wrote: Thye want 2.5+M for the experimental version.
Why not just buy an SF50....
Or a slightly used <insert huge list of turbines less than $2.5M>
2M buys a about 2666 hrs of Jet-A at 150 gal/hr. It goes 400kts on 80 GPH, that’s epic performance for 2.5 million. There’s nothing else that comes close
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Post subject: Re: Stratos 716 Posted: 11 Nov 2019, 10:05 |
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Username Protected wrote: Thye want 2.5+M for the experimental version.
Why not just buy an SF50....
Or a slightly used <insert huge list of turbines less than $2.5M>
2M buys a about 2666 hrs of Jet-A at 150 gal/hr. It goes 400kts on 80 GPH, that’s epic performance for 2.5 million. There’s nothing else that comes close
80 gph? That's better than I had expected if that is accurate.
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Post subject: Re: Stratos 716 Posted: 15 Nov 2019, 08:34 |
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Username Protected wrote: So I had someone tell me recently that once the new ADSB rules go into effect this next year, that RVSM requirements are going to go away. Has anyone else heard this? Only the operational requirements have changed. The equipment requirements are still there.
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Post subject: Re: Stratos 716 Posted: 15 Nov 2019, 09:36 |
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Username Protected wrote: So I had someone tell me recently that once the new ADSB rules go into effect this next year, that RVSM requirements are going to go away. Has anyone else heard this? Only the operational requirements have changed. The equipment requirements are still there.
I assumed the equipment requirements would be the same, but what would be an example of an operational requirement?
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Post subject: Re: Stratos 716 Posted: 15 Nov 2019, 12:27 |
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Username Protected wrote: I assumed the equipment requirements would be the same, but what would be an example of an operational requirement? Before the latest rule changes you needed an approved RVSM operations manual and an LOA. With ADS-B you just need the training and equipment, as long as you are flying in the US.
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