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 Post subject: Re: FJ44 vs JTD15 Part 91, owner flown, 80 hrs/yr
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What isn’t is that low utilization, unless done very strategically is the most expensive way (per hour) to own a jet.

My advice, get a partner or a couple of (legal) dry lease customers.

150 hours is minimum, but 200+ is better.

Remember, the investment in the aircraft, the Insurance, the hangar, and the majority of the maintenance cost the same per annum no matter how much you fly!

What you say applies to all aircraft (and cars, boats, etc.). There are calendar items and hourly items. With the factory LUMP (JT15D only) effectively all airframe maintenance is calendar-based. Engines are hourly (yes, there are minor inspections every 2 years but the big stuff is hourly). So yes, if you plan to fly 80 hours/year and can find a friend that can fly <= 70 hours/year, those 70 additional hours are cheaper as you are spreading the calendar costs over more hours. But then you have the scheduling and other problems that Mike C highlighted plus you cannot go over 150 hours without a huge cost increase. If you need a partner to make the math work, by all means. But if you can cover the costs, why not own it outright? Again, a jet is not special - it's really no different than a Bonanza.

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 Post subject: Re: FJ44 vs JTD15 Part 91, owner flown, 80 hrs/yr
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Again, a jet is not special - it's really no different than a Bonanza.

Except way safer.

You could improve the jet safety statistics by outlawing single pilot operations, for example.

Then more pilots would fly turboprops and pistons instead of jets and overall more people would be dead in the end due to the higher risk of those aircraft inherently over jets. But hey, jets would be safer, right?

It would be regulatory myopia to outlaw single pilot jet operations, but that kind of narrow view exists.

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FJ44 jets are fantastic, but they’re happiest on an engine program. Off-program can work, but you need to be comfortable carrying the risk of a big engine bill if something pops up.

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FJ44 jets are fantastic, but they’re happiest on an engine program. Off-program can work, but you need to be comfortable carrying the risk of a big engine bill if something pops up.

Williams charges more for off program work than the payments would have been on program, so off program only works if you intend to treat the engine as disposable at the next major engine maintenance event.

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