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 Post subject: Re: Aircraft inventory levels are critically low.
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Chip and Mike. One of the great if not greatest BT rivalries. Sad to see you two go at it so hard.. But I will say the education and huge amounts of information on jet ownership that is a result of your battles is priceless to us common BT peasants and wannabe one day jet owners. Thanks guys.


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 Post subject: Re: Aircraft inventory levels are critically low.
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But I will say the education and huge amounts of information on jet ownership that is a result of your battles is priceless to us common BT peasants and wannabe one day jet owners.

All I want to do is provide an example so the fear of the unknown is reduced for new owners. I'm not selling anything.

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 Post subject: Re: Aircraft inventory levels are critically low.
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But I will say the education and huge amounts of information on jet ownership that is a result of your battles is priceless to us common BT peasants and wannabe one day jet owners.

All I want to do is provide an example so the fear of the unknown is reduced for new owners. I'm not selling anything.

Mike C.

Sure you are. You are selling the value that your Citation V presents, just like you did when you owned an MU2. You’ll want to sell at some point and you are creating value, protecting your asset.

There’s nothing wrong with that. You have exaggerated how low your cost are by leaving out engine reserves, so I have pointed that out. Other than that, I think what you’re accomplishing is quite admirable and worth talking about.

We both want the same thing, more information shared for “wannabe jet owners” like Anthony.
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 Post subject: Re: Aircraft inventory levels are critically low.
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You are selling the value that your Citation V presents, just like you did when you owned an MU2. You’ll want to sell at some point and you are creating value, protecting your asset.

I'm flattered that you think I have that much influence over the market value of legacy Citations.

I don't.

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 Post subject: Re: Aircraft inventory levels are critically low.
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You are selling the value that your Citation V presents, just like you did when you owned an MU2. You’ll want to sell at some point and you are creating value, protecting your asset.

I'm flattered that you think I have that much influence over the market value of legacy Citations.

I don't.

Mike C.


I don't think you have influence over the whole market, just over the small number of aircraft that are high time and running with engines past TBO.

I think you have confirmation bias and because of exposure you think that the majority of V's have engines past TBO and are comparable to yours, I assure you they are not.

I do believe that you are the best thing that ever happened to MU2 values and I believe that long term, as more and more V's are operated past TBO, you will have a very positive mark on that entire market.

I don't think you fully grasp just how many folks read Beechtalk.
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 Post subject: Re: Aircraft inventory levels are critically low.
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There seems to be a lot of confusion about what models of aircraft Jet Acquisitions offers acquisition services for and why.

The why is usually a combination of demand and ability, with a heavy emphasis on the later.

This is a list of the models we offer acquisition services for;

Turboprop

Cessna Caravan - all models
Beech King Air - all models
Beechcraft Denali
Pilatus PC-12 - all models
Socata TBM - all models
Socata Kodiak - all models

Jets

Cessna Citation
Citation 510 Mustang
Citation 525 CJ’s - all models
Citation 560 - all models
Citation 680 - all models
Citation Latitude
Citation Longitude


Bombardier
Learjet 45XR / 75
Challenger 300, 350, 3500

Cirrus
SF-50 - all models

Embraer
Phenom - all models
Praetor - all models
Legacy - all models

Pilatus
PC-24 - all models

If you are interested in a model of aircraft not listed here, give us a call, we may do other models on a case by case basis or refer you to another acquistion firm that specializes in the type of aircraft you wish to purchase.

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 Post subject: Re: Aircraft inventory levels are critically low.
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There seems to be a lot of confusion about what models of aircraft Jet Acquisitions offers acquisition services for and why.

Surely this crosses the line for posting blatantly commercial spam on threads.

Or do the Jeffs not care as long as they get the money?

Chip, if you want to advertise, then buy ads on BT like all the other decent sponsors.

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There seems to be a lot of confusion about what models of aircraft Jet Acquisitions offers acquisition services for and why.

Surely this crosses the line for posting blatantly commercial spam on threads.

Or do the Jeffs not care as long as they get the money?

Chip, if you want to advertise, then buy ads on BT like all the other decent sponsors.

Mike C.


Again. WTF do you care? Your V isn’t on there. But go ahead Karyn.
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Again. WTF do you care?

Because BT is a high quality sight that would be ruined if every sponsor spammed threads, or created threads for spamming.

I take it you want a forum where all the sponsors spam the threads?

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Again. WTF do you care?

Because BT is a high quality sight that would be ruined if every sponsor spammed threads, or created threads for spamming.

I take it you want a forum where all the sponsors spam the threads?

Mike C.


For as much as you make it look like Chip gets under your forum skin, why don't you just foe him, and you'll never have to worry about him again????
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 Post subject: Re: Aircraft inventory levels are critically low.
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There seems to be a lot of confusion about what models of aircraft Jet Acquisitions offers acquisition services for and why.

Surely this crosses the line for posting blatantly commercial spam on threads.

Or do the Jeffs not care as long as they get the money?

Chip, if you want to advertise, then buy ads on BT like all the other decent sponsors.

Mike C.

I am both a sponsor and I do buy ads.

Considering YOU are the main reason that people are confused about what types of aircraft we buy and why... blame yourself.
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Weekly checkin... same posts. See y'all next week.

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For as much as you make it look like Chip gets under your forum skin, why don't you just foe him, and you'll never have to worry about him again????


(Weekly check in) Because if MC doesn’t win he loses, right? Some crazy stuff. Like watching a soap. You really can’t make this stuff up.

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We lost Mike C., he’s over on the Piaggio thread fighting with Alex.

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We lost Mike C.


Analog electronics have no future.
The MU-2 is inherently unsafe.
Citation Vs cost a fortune to run.

There, that should do it. It's like saying "Beetlejuice" 3 times.


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