Went to California to look at tradeaplane N2901L a 1980 58. Misrepresented; The engines are not Since New. I will stop there and not go into the sordid other details. This one, owner represented, not broker.
Next N8002Y a 1992 58 controller plane. Misrepresented. That is not even the N number since Feb 24. New paint, new interior in 2021, not so. Most of the ad is incorrect. I will stop here again and not go in other details. This one broker represented.
Just wanted to give the community a couple examples of what is out there right now, unfortunate.
Anyone have a nice 58, please give me a shout?

Wow! The ads look so nice. What a pain.
Kevin

Why not go into details if it saves someone else making the same trip and wasting time and money. It's advertised as a very nice airplane. I assume the engines are SMOH not Since New?

Not sure about misrepresentation, but, I want some of whatever that first one is smoking/drinking!

I spent my time and money fly David Beaver to look at a G58 that had spent time in Mexico, and it was so woefully misrepresented I posted my findings in Beechtalk, along with the SN. Plane ended up leaving the country.

Two Yankee has pretty pictures...

Worst Disney script ever

There’s a button on TAP that says “Report This Listing.” Seems you have an opportunity to do the world a favor.

Far too many brokers never see the airplane they “list”, much less take the time to determine the equipment list or even basic performance numbers. I have seen laughable errors in basic aircraft descriptions. This is a clue.

This does not keep them from trying to sell a plane on speculation. If the pictures that accompany the ad conveniently don’t show registration numbers it is often a sign they are not actually representing the owner, merely seeking buyers that they will then represent to the owner as “their” buyer. This is another clue.

I never had an owner go back on a deal. I came across several brokers who, once they had your offer to purchase would flip the plane to another buyer. So words were probably spoken along the line such as: You know that plane we talked about, you can have it for five grand more than this offer I have in hand.

Note that I did not capitalize broker. That was intentional. I would use Broker before the name Neil Schwartz.

Tim, I looked at the add for N2901L, if your in the Market for a Baron in that Price range Have you considered contacting Neal Schwartz right here on BT? I would think that Fellow could find you a nice Baron in Short Order, and save you a LOT of Grief

Tim, I looked at the add for N2901L, if your in the Market for a Baron in that Price range Have you considered contacting Neal Schwartz right here on BT? I would think that Fellow could find you a nice Baron in Short Order, and save you a LOT of Grief

Neal has a few for sale, including a few 58s. If I weren’t out of town, I would be happy to be your Taxi for the day to look at planes in VA and MD.
https://www.controller.com/listings/for ... nyid=26674

The only thing about Neal’s listings are that he doesn’t seem to deal with the garbage out there. The planes he represents seem to be nice aircraft and most reflect that in their price. That having been said, everyone on here knows how to negotiate.

Exactly this is why people have such rave reviews of Neal Schwartz, Latitude Aviation. He's a friend of mine, a coworker, and trusted person. He personally goes and looks at every single airplane he represents. Let him find you a gem.

Just my $.02

Call Bruce Watts at 530-867-6652. He is representing a Baron that hasn’t hit the market yet.

I have a 2001 58. 2000TT, 400 SNEW (for real). Thinking about selling it...........
Convince me to sell it!

Well the cat's out of the bag in terms of aircraft number. Now I'd be VERY interested in knowing what the OP found with N8002Y other than misstatements regarding registration and paint. I found the damage from a washer that was repaired, and I posted a question in that regard, but no other damage of concern.

Registrations and paint dates that are wrong are not troublesome to me, but damage history or other similar problems would be of concern, but I haven't found any if such exist, and would love some help if I am missing something.

Thanks.

- Joe

EDIT: Personally it looks to me as if the log books are very confusing because they are not laid out in a simple format as is normally the case, and so the times represented were probably guesses on the part of the owner, but from what I can tell the maintenance has been thorough just the add is inaccurate about specific timing of repairs, and the very young sales rep has not bothered to update the ad with pertinent info. Again though, my main concern is whether or not the aircraft has been properly maintained not whether the ad is accurate. Am I overly biased here?