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Try some Wisconsin Wyandotte cities....Wauwatosa, Oconomowoc, Waukesha, Ogema and just plain Wausau.

Apparently Libyans moved into Northern Wisconsin in Tripoli.

Even Manitowoc get destroyed by locals. Think long hard A’s.

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Just curious, is this a language/pronunciation thread or one about a high speed aircraft?

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More seriously that is one of the biggest differences between Latin languages and German/Northern-based languages: in the latter, all letters of a word tend to be pronounced. In Latin, letters are in conjunction to create different syllables whose pronunciation depends on their position in the word.

Hi Fabien,
Not universally true - I recall the merger of Daimler-Chrysler. In German pronunciation, the "Chrysler" was silent.


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I've driven a 15 speed Mack, is that fast?

One or two people mentioned Pennsylvania. If that Mack truck is full of 30,000 pounds of bananas then it might even be too fast.


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It’s a pretty poor mind that can think of only one way to pronounce a word.

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Paris (with an S that you pronounce at the end) is the son of Priam, lover of Helen of Sparta, killer of Achilles.

Paris (the city) is pronounced without the S.
Thank you, this PSA is now over. :btt:

edit: why do I do that? Because it's from Latin, and it's the proper pronunciation. If you guys hadn't mixed up Latin, Greek & French with some Old German, you would speak correctly :tongue: .
More seriously that is one of the biggest differences between Latin languages and German/Northern-based languages: in the latter, all letters of a word tend to be pronounced. In Latin, letters are in conjunction to create different syllables whose pronunciation depends on their position in the word.

I’m curious about this, Fabian. When I learned Latin thirty years ago, I was told all syllables were pronounced, with little changes in pronunciation as a result of letter combinations: Hard C and S, the letter V as W, the letter U as “ooh” etc.
Last year my kids started learning Latin and the pronunciation guides are the same. Perhaps the Romans spoke Latin differently in Gaul?
Another one of my teachers also commented that modern Spanish (from Spain) is the closest pronunciation to original Latin, with the exception of the hard-c of course.
For what it’s worth, I learned French while attending school (CM2) in the Alpes Maritimes. Many years later I was working on a job in France, and one of my colleagues told me I spoke French like a ten year old!
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...and it's I-en-Shtine.


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I’m curious about this, Fabian. When I learned Latin thirty years ago, I was told all syllables were pronounced, with little changes in pronunciation as a result of letter combinations: Hard C and S, the letter V as W, the letter U as “ooh” etc.
Last year my kids started learning Latin and the pronunciation guides are the same. Perhaps the Romans spoke Latin differently in Gaul?
Another one of my teachers also commented that modern Spanish (from Spain) is the closest pronunciation to original Latin, with the exception of the hard-c of course.
For what it’s worth, I learned French while attending school (CM2) in the Alpes Maritimes. Many years later I was working on a job in France, and one of my colleagues told me I spoke French like a ten year old!
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Well, I took a few shortcuts otherwise my posts would be way off topic (no surprise there) and pretty long. I'm trying to be less talkative...sometimes.

In Latin, to a certain extent all the letters are pronounced, but it's a bit more than little changes in combination with another letter. Or possibly to an English-speaking person, the change are too subtle? Let's take U (or V, since that's the same letter). You do not pronouce it the same way if you use it in:
-Bonus, in which case it's an OUUUUHHHH sound
-Ius, in which case it's very short OU (ooh for you guys).
-and Uotum, in which case it's like your W in English (Hey! Maybe there's a connection there?!)

Then you have Diphtongs, the most famous I supposed being Ae (as in Aequus, equal), and Eu (like in Europa).
You do not pronounce it Ehouropa, at least not in Latin (or in latin-based languages).

Furthermore, i and u are pronounced like the vowel in "w"eekend when they are in front of another vowel. Unless it's at the beginning of a word, then it can be "ye", like iam. Or in a word: iniustus, which gives injuste/unjust.

As to your point about the Latin in Gaul: to be fair, that's the pronounciation as it was under Caesar (with a hard K, as in Kaiser, not your Ceeeeeezar...Or in Czar. It's amazing how much that man has impacted the world!) and Cicero.
After Augustus, and with more Greek influence, it evolved.
And Gaullish had a huge influence (nearly as much as Greek) on Latin. Take the word for a horse: equus. In Gaullish: caballos. Which you immediately recognize as "caballo" in Spanish, "cavallo" in Italian...And of course "cavalry" in English! And on that note, under the influence of what we now call "old French", that gave you the word "chivalry".
We got there after it became "caballus" in Vulgar Latin.

But another example, think of the difference in pronunciation between "pax" and "pauper". Words we still use to this day.
Spanish is extremely close to Latin, as it was less influenced by Greek and Arab, and they retain (like German) quite a bit of the logic behind the declensions. Which we mostly dropped in French for instance, but then compounded with our grammar.

You lived in Alpes Maritime? I'm just back from a Lille-Nice flight. Such a lovely place, and the flowers are burgeoning in Grasse!
Do you still speak French? The more languages I learn, the more glad I am that it is my native language and I do not have to try and make sense of the many, MANY apparently illogical intricacies of it.
Nevertheless I have yet to learn a language which allows you to describe and write in such incredible details, with a rhythm that is hard to explain to non-speaker.
In a way, French is one of the few languages which so vastly differ between the written and the spoken expressions: the first one tends to be extremely precise, you try and evaluate the use of every little word, there are many many rules to follow, you compare your letters to a book in your search for hi-quality correspondence.

Whereas when you speak, and like in Italian, we do tend to speak very fast, ellipses are very common, your sentences are quite free and they tend to reflect the level of thought you are trying to use: oftentimes you start without having an idea (or caring) for the way it's going to end, and the way you construct it matters to your listeners as much as the content of it.
I could talk the way I write, but very rarely do the other way around.

To tie it back to Latin, in a way, it reflects the differences between Classical Latin, and Vulgar Latin.

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When did we start measuring speed in Mack numbers instead of Mach numbers?

One mach is approximately 9 macks. Some macks can top 90mph


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Hey Fabien,

One of the things I love about BT is the way threads wander, but I’ll answer briefly here so we can return to ...
:scratch: ... I’ve forgotten.

Anyway, yes my I lived for a couple of years near Mouans-Sartoux outside of Grasse. The jasmine flowers are wonderful in season and I have many amazing memories (and a lot of nostalgia for a time that no longer exists). I haven’t spoken French in many years, but learned young enough that it comes back after an extended visit. Which reminds me, I need to make an extended visit ...

And now back to ... ah yes, the SR-72. Or was it Mack vs. Mach? Or how people pronounce foreign languages?

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I've driven a 15 speed Mack, is that fast?

One or two people mentioned Pennsylvania. If that Mack truck is full of 30,000 pounds of bananas then it might even be too fast.

It would set off the radiation detectors at some airports!

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If the TR3-B Astra is real, it would make the SR-72 unnecessary with Mach 9 speeds, and having the "Gravity Disruptor" technology. These black triangles have been reported by a lot of seemingly credible people.


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Wasn't that the same tech that the Raptor was supposed to use to reach its performance data?

And considering how amazing we got to be at photoshop and deepfakes, why do we always get those crude fake UFO?

Anyway, physics are still physics...

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Wasn't that the same tech that the Raptor was supposed to use to reach its performance data?

And considering how amazing we got to be at photoshop and deepfakes, why do we always get those crude fake UFO?

Anyway, physics are still physics...


What crude fakes? Those are artists' renderings. :D Yep, physics are physics, the same throughout the universe I believe, but that doesn't mean we have mastered them all, and the general public doesn't know what we have mastered.

The late Ben Rich, leader of the Skunk Works after Kelly Johnson said "Anything you can imagine, we already have the technology to do." "We have things out in the desert that are 50 years beyond what you can comprehend." "If you've seen something on Star Wars or Star Trek we've been there, done that, or decided it wasn't worth the effort." "We have 4500 people working at the Skunk Works, what do you think they have been doing for the last 18 or 20 years? They're building something."

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There was a guy at the end of the 19th century who opined that 'everything that can be invented, has been invented'

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In 1889, Charles H. Duell was the Commissioner of US patent office. He is widely quoted as having stated that the patent office would soon shrink in size, and eventually close, because… "Everything that can be invented has been invented.”


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