BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Feb 2018, 15:12

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Mikko, I think calling the 45 dangerous is a bit of a stretch. While heavy in roll, after a few hours in the airplane you don't even notice it and it feels like anything else. :thumbup:

Agreed, have a few hours with Sean S in them and they are heavier on the controls but no way dangerous.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Feb 2018, 17:12

Username Protected wrote:

Mikko, I think calling the 45 dangerous is a bit of a stretch. While heavy in roll, after a few hours in the airplane you don't even notice it and it feels like anything else. :thumbup:

Agreed, have a few hours with Sean S in them and they are heavier on the controls but no way dangerous.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Nov 2019, 20:40

In Park City this weekend. Flew up Monday from Texas with my family in the 425. Now watching a blizzard out the condo sliding doors.

I searched this thread and a few others.

I would like to know what early model PC-12/45’s are bringing these days? Basically, what’s the entry fee into PC-12 world? Not a beater freight dog, but a decent airplane for business and family travel. Can you find one for $1.5M?

I have six kids (all girls) and the Conquest works for now, but grandma wants to come sometimes. Also, I have several trips every year where I would like to bring more employees.

I’m not in the market now but perhaps in the next year or two.

Thanks,
John

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Nov 2019, 02:58

Username Protected wrote:

I have six kids (all girls)

May the lord have mercy upon your poor soul.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Nov 2019, 09:02

https://www.controller.com/listings/air ... raft-1900c

Good looking C model to haul the family around.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Nov 2019, 09:06

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https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/23749849/1988-beechcraft-1900c

Good looking C model to haul the family around.

I used to dream about 1900s. There used to be one for sale that was all decked out executive style. Wish they didn’t require 2 pilots. This one has 25k TT. Sheesh

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Nov 2019, 09:10

1900 can be flown SP.

Per FAA...

(6) To date, the FAA permits applicants to perform pilot type rating practical tests as a single pilot or with an SIC in the following airplanes:
(a) Cessna 501. (b) Cessna 525. (c) Cessna 551. (d) Raytheon390.
(e) Beech 300 that are certificated under SFAR41 and the Beech B300 and B300C that are certificated in the commuter category.
(f) Beech 1900 and Beech 1900C that are certificated under SFAR 41 and the Beech 1900D that is certificated in the commuter category.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Nov 2019, 09:19

25k TT on that thing is just getting broken in .

Only about 800 hrs/yr so far.

Would be a fun airplane to load it up & take to OSH.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Nov 2019, 09:32

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25k TT on that thing is just getting broken in .

Only about 800 hrs/yr so far.

Would be a fun airplane to load it up & take to OSH.

Ha

And it has wooden floorboards. The panel looks like Apollo 11

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Nov 2019, 10:00

Username Protected wrote:

25k TT on that thing is just getting broken in .

Only about 800 hrs/yr so far.

Would be a fun airplane to load it up & take to OSH.

HoHoHo Scott,

You and crew would have bragging rights in Vintage among the B18’s. Nobody else would bring as much food, booze, tables, camping gear etc than you...

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Nov 2019, 10:25

Username Protected wrote:

I have six kids (all girls)

May the lord have mercy upon your poor soul.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Nov 2019, 10:30

Username Protected wrote:

I would like to know what early model PC-12/45’s are bringing these days? Basically, what’s the entry fee into PC-12 world? Not a beater freight dog, but a decent airplane for business and family travel. Can you find one for $1.5M?
John

John,
In the current market, you will need 2m to find something decent. The /45s are in demand and limited so many of the lower time airframes have gone up in value. Also if you need 10 seats, those aircraft go for a premium. Most of the aircraft that were delivered with 8 seats were only plumbed for oxygen for 8 seats. Adding the oxygen and additional seats is 80k+. You could just add the seats but not legally.

The good news is that if you do purchase a /45 or /47 you will most likely get that value back and possibly more when you sell.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Nov 2019, 10:47

Username Protected wrote:

I have six kids (all girls)

May the lord have mercy upon your poor soul.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Jun 2024, 11:49

I was on the COPA forum and there has been some discussion about Pilatus moving to Garmin. I opined there and I am reposting the same information:

Since we are in the speculation game: PC-12 aircraft HB-FWU flew from Olathe, KS (Garmin Headquaters) back in March 28, 2024 to Europe. It has had a very busy flight schedule since then. https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/HBFWU/history/20240328/1410Z/KIXD/KBTV

I looked up the registration at the Swiss Aircraft Register it is marked experimental.

If this is true, it will neutralize a lot of the potential advantages of the Denali. Pilatus has been very good at countering every announcement from Textron. I do appreciate Textron entering the segment, but man they have had a long gestation.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Jun 2024, 19:00

I’ve heard the same rumor, we were just in Olathe putting a PC12NG into prebuy at KCAC, contacted our Garmin rep while we were there but couldn’t make our schedules work.

I think it’s pretty safe to say at this point that most aircraft of this size will be going to Garmin.

The Ultimate Pilatus PC12 Thread!