"Good afternoon Ladies and Gentlemen. This is your Captain speaking. Welcome again to JC Airways. Glad to have you aboard today. I just turned on the seatbelt sign as I'm expecting a bit of light turbulence. Oh, you don't like turbulence ya little sissy mary? Well suck it up cupcake. You're in a freakin metal tube screaming through the air at 500 mph. I've had harsher rides driving down the east side highway. Geez."

How well will it hand fly at 310?

Probably okay.

RVSM altitudes, though, require autopilot in level flight, so normally it won't be hand flown at that altitude.

Mike C.

Like it or not.... it's there. "Like" has nothing to do with it.

Besides, I'm not commenting on what they tell their passengers. I'm commenting on the 60% of the radio time congested with "how are the rides today"? to ATC taking guesses on what altitude it "might" be better at. It's a lot of work for probably ZERO return.

Try a day trip to/from Alaska in an SF50.... and do it during the winter when all the runways are contaminated and there is over 1500 nm of icy IFR.

Not everybody needs all the capability of a SETP, but the M600 carries more, farther, into higher, hotter, shorter, or contaminated fields without concern. The M600 can also carry 6 adults not 5. It is a more capable and a more redundant aircraft. For the right mission the SF50 is awesome, but it is not the aircraft that an M600 is. I routinely fly non-stop from Utah to the east coast. Makes flight planning and weather planning super simple, and also allows me to leave at my leisure late morning and have dinner with my daughters on the east coast with enough energy to enjoy it. Can't even do that commercial due to needing connections to suboptimal airports.

Try a day trip to/from Alaska in an SF50.... and do it during the winter when all the runways are contaminated and there is over 1500 nm of icy IFR.

Not everybody needs all the capability of a SETP, but the M600 carries more, farther, into higher, hotter, shorter, or contaminated fields without concern. The M600 can also carry 6 adults not 5. It is a more capable and a more redundant aircraft. For the right mission the SF50 is awesome, but it is not the aircraft that an M600 is. I routinely fly non-stop from Utah to the east coast. Makes flight planning and weather planning super simple, and also allows me to leave at my leisure late morning and have dinner with my daughters on the east coast with enough energy to enjoy it. Can't even do that commercial due to needing connections to suboptimal airports.

But the majority of time flying is spent on longer legs. 85% of my flying time is on legs more than 1 hour, even though my average leg length is not much over an hour.

If you want to travel by GA, a 1 hour airplane doesn't cut it, never will.

Mike C.

Nice! I didn't realize the M600 had that kind of endurance. I LOVE winter mountain flying and a TP is hard to beat on icy runways.

90%+ of all GA flights are an hour or so.[/quote]

I would say most of my flights are on the shorter side by number. Those are usually work related. However, my most memorable flights have been the longer ones, where the world is really opened up. Non-stops to destinations in Mexico, Alaska, heavy flights to vacation spots. Non-stops to the Southeastern beaches in SC, GA, Florida. That is where the plane gives back mainly to my family, who so graciously put up with me. Non-stop to Puerto Vallarta, 5 in the plane and a weeks worth of luggage.... Yeah we could have done it with a fuel stop in a Mustang or an SF50, but the fuel stops were windy and unpleasant. The weather at 270 was beautiful and smooth. We left snow and gray skies and landed in blue sky bliss.

I don't subscribe to the get a plane that satisfies 90% of missions. I want something more. Of course the real world constrains, finances, time.... Never thought I would have this kind of freedom, just going to give thanks for that.

Cirrus has nailed GA marketing.

But for $2.7mm there are planes available that provide more capability than the SF50.

Really seems like a heckuva lot of $$ for the platform. But hey they are sold out.
Wonder what Beech would look like with a Cirrus level of marketing and a 2/3 Cirrus level of bringing both major and incremental improvements to market?

The M600 is a long legged beast. Quite good on contaminated fields as well. You can also carry a lot of weight. Holds over 7 hours of fuel, so trading fuel for load in the cabin, makes it a true 6 seat aircraft. I have really enjoyed it. Have recently toyed with moving into something else, as I seem to trade airplanes about every 2 years.... This is the first aircraft that I have had, that I just don't really want to trade out of. If the PC12 had Garmin, might get a second job to pick one up. Still a nice plane with Apex, but coming from the G3000, woof Sorry Jason

Can't be, impossible, a guy on the internet who is an expert on everything said they would never approve that. He also said they would never get RVSM with a single engine. This must all be fake news.

What's a 1 hour airplane?

Cirrus is owned by China Aviation Industry General Aircraft Co., a subsidiary of Aviation Industry Corporation a state owned company. I don't believe a statistic that comes from China, including their state owned companies. No one on this board knows if Cirrus is actually making a profit or not. China would never admit to losses.


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