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Post subject: Re: Cessna announces new twin turboprop - skycourier Posted: 28 Nov 2017, 21:51 |
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Username Protected wrote: Says it will carry 5,000 lbs over 400nm. Seems unlikely that comes under 12.5 Yep. I didn't think the math all the way through.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna announces new twin turboprop - skycourier Posted: 28 Nov 2017, 23:46 |
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Username Protected wrote: Probably what Fed Ex wanted. Low risk, predictable maintenance, aircraft. You can bet they are going to get extended intervals, too. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna announces new twin turboprop - skycourier Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 01:27 |
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Is it just me, or does anyone else think that main gear looks particularly ugly?
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Post subject: Re: Cessna announces new twin turboprop - skycourier Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 01:38 |
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Username Protected wrote: The brochure says 3300, no doubt by the company test pilot using optimal short field technique. This may be with an engine failure at V1, that is, balance field length such that they can stop before V1 and go after V1 if an engine fails. So while the number doesn't look particularly impressive, it might actually be quite good considering the conditions it is meant to represent. Landing distance will be quite short as it is with any turboprop. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna announces new twin turboprop - skycourier Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 08:56 |
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Username Protected wrote: Landing distance will be quite short as it is with any turboprop.
Mike C. What’s the shortest strip you’ve landed the MU2 upon?
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Post subject: Re: Cessna announces new twin turboprop - skycourier Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 09:20 |
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Username Protected wrote: What’s the shortest strip you’ve landed the MU2 upon? I think about 2600 ft. That's defined by my ability to takeoff afterwards, not my landing distance. Carlson is based at KSQL, 2600 ft, so he regularly does that distance. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna announces new twin turboprop - skycourier Posted: 29 Nov 2017, 20:56 |
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Good evening BT, Hello Mike C. Username Protected wrote: The brochure says 3300, no doubt by the company test pilot using optimal short field technique. This may be with an engine failure at V1, that is, balance field length such that they can stop before V1 and go after V1 if an engine fails. So while the number doesn't look particularly impressive, it might actually be quite good considering the conditions it is meant to represent. Landing distance will be quite short as it is with any turboprop. Mike C.
You are very correct.
I would not be surprised if this aircraft excellent short field capabillties.
I flew the BE-1900 D in my previous job (+2000 hrs). That was a hot rod super mod King Air. It would carry just about anything you could put in it. And I swear you could just about get it in and out of a walmart parking lot.
From the looks of it, this new aircraft might do better.
And in my mind; what a great aircraft to modify in the future. Bigger tanks, more powerful Blackhawk engines, etc.
I will bet that this aircraft will be a big hit for Cessna. Both for commercial use and in the GA market.
Time will tell.
I can't wait to see it.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna announces new twin turboprop - skycourier Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 11:22 |
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Username Protected wrote: Is it just me, or does anyone else think that main gear looks particularly ugly? The gear looks fine to me. Lots of great airplanes have one like that, such as L410. Although, they are typically retracts, so I can't help wondering if Textron means to make a retract version later on if a large customer comes along. If they didn't, then something like Twin Otter would do the job and might be cheaper to make (up to a certain gross weight). What I'm not particularly sure about is the arrangement where struts plug into the gear attachment points in case of a trailing link gear. Yes, very clever on a napkin sketch, but I wish I could see the numbers for trades against a cantilever wing. Short splits the difference, BTW. It uses the same stub center strut for ground loads, but then gear extends outboard a ways. Someone didn't want to give the lift load any more leverage than was necessary. Maybe Textron is going to add some composite magic into the design :-)
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Post subject: Re: Cessna announces new twin turboprop - skycourier Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 16:03 |
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Username Protected wrote: Cargo pods for FedEx Yup. It pretty much looks like someone from FedEx drew 3 LD3 pods on a napkin and said, "put wings on this".
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Post subject: Re: Cessna announces new twin turboprop - skycourier Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 16:42 |
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Username Protected wrote: Cargo pods for FedEx Yup. It pretty much looks like someone from FedEx drew 3 LD3 pods on a napkin and said, "put wings on this".
Glorious to have the resources to commission a bespoke aircraft for your purposes.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna announces new twin turboprop - skycourier Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 20:51 |
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Username Protected wrote: Cargo pods for FedEx Yup. It pretty much looks like someone from FedEx drew 3 LD3 pods on a napkin and said, "put wings on this".
....and someone at textron said: Lets see, we still have the jigs for the nose on the Beluga 1900D, the wings we can just stretch from the Caravan and we'll hang some big PT6s on it for good measure. So how many do you want ?
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