BeechTalk - BT - My 75 hours in a Pilatus PC-12 NG

Username Protected · **Posted:** 01 Feb 2017, 17:33

Username Protected wrote:

I can enter a full flight plan in less time than you can put it into any other system.

Took me about 30 seconds to load a flight plan on the B777 to go half way around the world. How long would it take you to load a flight plan to go half way around the world in a PC-12? Kind of doubt that it would be less than 30 seconds.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 01 Feb 2017, 18:15

Username Protected wrote:

I can enter a full flight plan in less time than you can put it into any other system.

Took me about 30 seconds to load a flight plan on the B777 to go half way around the world. How long would it take you to load a flight plan to go half way around the world in a PC-12? Kind of doubt that it would be less than 30 seconds.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 01 Feb 2017, 18:24

Seems like quite a bit just to get from JFK to LHR:

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Username Protected · **Posted:** 01 Feb 2017, 18:26

Username Protected wrote:

Alright wisenhymer, send me the readback and I'll time it. If your's is doing it automatically, that's different than manual entry.
Man asked about manual entry.

Here you go. Why don't you record the entry and put it on YouTube and I'll do the same (in the simulator, since I've retired from flying the line)

KLAX - OMDB

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Username Protected · **Posted:** 01 Feb 2017, 18:28

USB key?
Wifi?
Bluetooth?
1,103 fingers?

I gotta know.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 01 Feb 2017, 19:04

Username Protected wrote:

USB key?
Wifi?
Bluetooth?
1,103 fingers?

I gotta know.

Me Too!!!!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 01 Feb 2017, 19:41

Dan,

Get a 441 with G600's/GTN's. Shoot your flight plan from your iPhone to the FS510 and be done with pushing buttons. Chill in a 6.3Psi cabin at FL350 with 2 Garrett's sipping 52gal/hr. at 290Kts while the chumps get tossed around in the soup. Just sayin';)

Username Protected · **Posted:** 01 Feb 2017, 19:44

Username Protected wrote:

Alright wisenhymer, send me the readback and I'll time it. If your's is doing it automatically, that's different than manual entry.
Man asked about manual entry.

Here you go. Why don't you record the entry and put it on YouTube and I'll do the same (in the simulator, since I've retired from flying the line)

KLAX - OMDB

CASTA6 EHF J5 PINNI MVA BAM HLN GTF WLLES YXE YVC 6130N/10000W 6700N/09000W 7200N/08000W GELBO 7700N/06000W 7900N/04000W 7900N/02000W 7700N/00000E 7500N/01000E OLOLI TINOS KELEK A832 MOVIT G476 UREPI B958 BD BD4T SW BD5T FV R11 US A722 PT R11 GUSLI M54 TAVRO M54 ADILA N82 ADANO N77 MAGRI UR654 ZAJ R654 SAV UP574 SYZ G666 ORSAR R784 PEBAT B416 DESDI

Username Protected · **Posted:** 01 Feb 2017, 19:44

Username Protected wrote:

USB key?
Wifi?
Bluetooth?
1,103 fingers?

I gotta know.

ACARS

Username Protected · **Posted:** 01 Feb 2017, 19:48

Username Protected wrote:

USB key?
Wifi?
Bluetooth?
1,103 fingers?

I gotta know.

ACARS

Username Protected · **Posted:** 01 Feb 2017, 20:04

Username Protected wrote:

Dan,

Get a 441 with G600's/GTN's. Shoot your flight plan from your iPhone to the FS510 and be done with pushing buttons. Chill in a 6.3Psi cabin at FL350 with 2 Garrett's sipping 52gal/hr. at 290Kts while the chumps get tossed around in the soup. Just sayin';)

Martti, how you doin mate?

.......you still gotta put that flight plan in your phone!!!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 01 Feb 2017, 20:13

Do you guys really load flight plans? I never get what I file. I'll put the first waypoint into the FMS and that's it. 99% of the time, after take off, it's VECTORS then "Direct Destination".

Username Protected · **Posted:** 01 Feb 2017, 20:47

Today on what should have been a short 20 min flight I had a full departure and 3 airways, and they made me fly them all. Hate flying in the northeast. dC airspace made 20 minutes 45 despite me blasting around at 250 Indicated.

I have found the speed of the mu2 makes having everything setup before wheels up a necessity. Too much of a distraction to be inputting stuff in the air!

The GTN750s are pretty darn fast at route entry. Not sure it could get a whole lot faster. Bummer u can't wire up a flightstream to the Apex suite.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 01 Feb 2017, 21:01

Username Protected wrote:

Dan,

Get a 441 with G600's/GTN's. Shoot your flight plan from your iPhone to the FS510 and be done with pushing buttons. Chill in a 6.3Psi cabin at FL350 with 2 Garrett's sipping 52gal/hr. at 290Kts while the chumps get tossed around in the soup. Just sayin';)

Martti, how you doin mate?

.......you still gotta put that flight plan in your phone!!!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 02 Feb 2017, 01:40

Username Protected wrote:

I have found the speed of the mu2 makes having everything setup before wheels up a necessity. Too much of a distraction to be inputting stuff in the air!

Yes, you have to be ready before takeoff.

But, you don't have to go full route. Get the first 20 minutes/75 miles in the box. You will have time to add on once you get there and it will very likely change.

Mike C.