If you were looking for a 6 place single, what would you choose? And here's the kicker, it's got to be under $100,00. It would nice if it was less. It needs to have a WAAS GPS, good autopilot, audio panel, etc. I'd love an A36, but there just isn't any out there for this price. I don't think I can afford a twin. I have 3 kids(7, 2, and 6months). A search of the normal sites hasn't turned up much. Here are 2 possibilities but I don't know much about the 210's. I hate how the AH and DG are off to the side. The lance is nice but it's over budget. What do you guys like about the 210 or lance? What do you have to lookout for on these models?

http://www.controller.com/listings/airc ... essna-210l


http://www.controller.com/listings/airc ... iper-lance

I don't have much 210 time, but I've got quite a bit in the Lance. They're absolute trucks; the barn doors are great and the useful load is usually just short of "if you can close the doors, it'll fly..." Roughly 155kt TAS airplanes on 15-16gph, but with up to 100 gallons of gas on board.

I've probably got 300 to 400 hours of C210 time but none in a Lance. Brad pretty much described the handling of the 210. I'm not a fan of a 210.

Heck, You could do that in a Baron and have a lot more benefits.

I've probably got 300 to 400 hours of C210 time but none in a Lance. Brad pretty much described the handling of the 210. I'm not a fan of a 210.

I'd struggle and get an A36... or just a 36. Much better quality, more fun to fly and you'll be happier with it.

I have a 1978 Cherokee 6 - 260 and love it. The plane in definitely not fast (130 true) but is a solid instrument platform that is an excellent tool for transporting my wife, 17 year old daughter, and two 80 pound labs in relative comfort without completely breaking the bank. A friend has an A-36 that is a lot faster but he can not afford to fly it nearly as much as he would like due to its higher costs.

The A36 really should operate lower per mile than the 6. Only difference is the retractable gear with is very small in maintenance overall. The fuel savings will easily pay for that and then some. There's some other reason he isn't flying the A36.

I know nothing of the Lance, but the 210 is closest to 74 Chevy Suburban . . . really a versatile hauler.

Haven't flown for years, but I never liked not being able to preflight the engine. You just can't see under the cowling, but the Bonanza has spoiled us in that regard.

Also, the gear can be problematic if not well maintained, and fueling is much more difficult.

All in all, what a great reason to buy a Baron

The A36 really should operate lower per mile than the 6. Only difference is the retractable gear with is very small in maintenance overall. The fuel savings will easily pay for that and then some. There's some other reason he isn't flying the A36.

If you could live without the Autopilot might want to look at this if you want to go twin, http://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?cat ... e=aircraft

If you don't want to go twin and can live without the autopilot, http://www.controller.com/listings/airc ... 36-bonanza

Lets us know what you decide. I'm moving up from a 150 and I'm kinda in the same boat as you are as far what want to get. I only will have 4 people but my people are a tad heavy and bring way to much stuff. I am leaning very hard to the V35s and A36s. But i have found if you want a cheap A36 your either going to have to jump on it then or your going to have to take one with high engine times.

Don't think I can afford to properly maintain a twin. I feel like an autopilot is a must for the flying I do. Just don't think I'd be happy without one.

Cherokee 6 or if you get lucky a Saratoga (Cherokee with tapered wing). You can find some Lances out there that will fit your bill, but the retractable Saratoga's are going to be over your price limit for the most part. Also, as the models got newer, they got fatter and lost some of the useful load. The C210 became a useful 6 seater around 1970, but they hover around the 100K mark as well. The Bonanzas handle a lot better, but you pay for that. If you are a lower time pilot, the fixed gear PA28s may be the way to go to save on insurance and MX. Good luck.

I have lots of time in Bonanzas and 210s.

I like Bonanzas and just love V-tails, but can happily fly around in a 210 if necessary. I am probably not quite as sensitive to handling quality as some here as I have had to fly a variety of different types over the years.

However, buying an old 210 to get below the asking prices for BE36s just doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

Im shopping for a 6 place. My biggest issue with the Beech is the CG. Between the two, Ill choose a PA32 because if it fits, it ships as the commercial goes. If you do have an aft CG in a PA32, move something to the nose baggage and its all good.

Some people need a Suburban, some need a 7 Series.