Congrats!

I think there's no upgrade path for the F-model to -10s, so you'd need to be bored enough to change airplanes.

Right. Should have specified a -10 K Model.

Let me come hang out with you a little, when you step up I could buy your F

Congratulations James. Welcome to the club. I am not a big believer in doing your initial in a sim, even though you will still have to put time in the plane. The MU2 flies so different from every other plane that I have ever flown. The controls are very heavy and being out of trim can almost make it un-flyable. You won't get that in the sim. If you haven't stroked that check to Simcom, I'd highly recommend Reece Howell's organization for your initial and then go to Simcom. Good Luck!

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This. Go to Reese. Simcom is for 100 hours later. Either way, best of luck, and about trimming in the MU2- I couldn't agree more. Docile as a pussycat if you trim when needed (often), it's a fight every moment if you don't.

Congrats. You're going to love it.

My recommendation as well.

I tell folks to do an in airplane initial, then follow up with a sim recurrent. Sim will teach a few bad habits not appropriate to the real airplane, and it is MUCH harder to fly, IMO, so the real airplane is less frustrating. Also, some hours with an instructor will help identify the problems you may have with the plane, so it serves as a shake out process as well. Last thing a new MU2 pilot needs are annoying squawks they don't understand (yet).

Shawn McDonnell at KSLN is very good, best ground school, good detail, economical price. Detailed, precise.

Reece (and now Jerry) in KMQY are very good, too. More laid back, more easy going. Reece has forgotten more about MU2s than I'll ever know.

I've trained with almost everyone who does MU2s (rotating helps keep it fresh and interesting) and they all have something to offer.

Mike C.

I did my initial with Shawn in airplane. Highly recommended!

I have done recurrent with Reese and Jerry. Highly recommended!

There are some that believe that the Sim is the only way. I prefer in airplane initial and the next recurrent in the Sim to catch the items you just can't do in the airplane.

Thanks for the feedback on the initial training. I was told that I would better served in the Sim because they could reset it quicker and get more reps in for practice versus being in the actual plane. This made sense but I agree that I would rather have ALL my training done ion the actual plane I will be flying rather than getting comfortable with something only to start again in he plane. Another win for BT.

James--

IMO- Intial training in the SIM is most beneficial then do some IOE training in the plane.
The SIM will enable you to do ALL the system checks, build confidence and really understand the plane but most important perform the Emergency items that can't be done in the plane such as V1 cuts, engine fire, emergency decent, blown tires, system failures. The airplane flying will teach you the normals. I'm sure there will be some time to reduce thrust in the plane also.. SIM training is invaluable with the ability to put the sim off motion, debriefs and perform do overs...
You can't go wrong with the SIM 1st but more can go wrong waiting 1 year.

Your response above is spot on .... Go to SIM

Congrats on the new plane..

The F models have pretty idiosyncratic layouts. Not sure how well the sim actually simulates his s/n.

Here is a photo of the "normals" I did in my initial with Reece Howell.

I think airplane first precisely because it is hard to learn what is abnormal until you've gotten your feet wet with what is normal. Then the sim has more value to failing things since you might recognize what is failing.

Flight Training Device, level 5... I'm not aware of any other MU2 FTD or sim out there.

James,

Welcome to the MU-2 community. I know you'll love it!

James-

Add my vote for initial in the airplane and then six months later go to SimCom. You will feel much more comfortable in your plane after the in-airplane initial compared to getting your initial training at SimCom. Yes, you have required in-airplane hours at SimCom, but not nearly as many hours as you'll get doing it all in the plane.

Definitely do the Sim as soon after the initial as you can, but do the initial in the airplane.

I was told when I bought my Marquise that after 25 hours, I was going to not particularly like the airplane. That it is different enough from the twins that I had flown in the past and that I will question what the hell I had gotten myself into.

After 50 hours, I was told that I would begin to feel comfortable and confident in flying the airplane. And, thinking that I had made a good choice.

After 100 hours, I was told that I would have a forever crush & love affair with the MU2 and feel very comfortable and safe flying it.

In my case, that is almost precisely what happened.

I did not feel all that confident after 25 hours, partly because it was the first turbine aircraft I had ever flown. I was worried about my lack of familiarity with the engines and a $200,000 "oops". After owning the Marquise for 3 years, I learned that the engines are very easy to manage and forgiving. And 10 times easier to take care of than twin piston engines.

Enjoy your F model.

Actually, I don't even need to tell you that.

You will.

Jay

Given the Tulsa accident, how would you guys approach your first X hours after training?