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Post subject: US testing the Shin Meiwa amphibian. Posted: 16 Jul 2023, 22:39 |
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This is too cool if it would happen - US Navy having search and rescue amphibians again? Yes, you could say the Shin Meiwa US-2 has a "face only a mother could love", but damn, to me it's beautiful in all its brute utility, just like an English Bulldog! Hope it happens instead of that lame Hercules on floats they were showing around.
[youtube]http://youtu.be/jTnzxYRl5qo[/youtube]
BTW, take a look at the US-2's insane short water takeoff capability. 900ft apparently! All due to blown boundary layer wing. Bring on the Shin's!
[youtube]http://youtu.be/t4iRXMOMm9M[/youtube]
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Post subject: Re: US testing the Shin Meiwa amphibian. Posted: 16 Jul 2023, 23:59 |
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Username Protected wrote: All due to blown boundary layer wing. Wonder what happens when an engine fails in the low, slow, high lift configuration. It has as much power as a C-130, 4 x 4590 HP. Max gross is 120,000 lbs. Plus it has a 5th engine, a 1400 HP turboshaft engine running a compressor for the boundary layer lift system. Only 8 of them exist from what I read. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: US testing the Shin Meiwa amphibian. Posted: 17 Jul 2023, 01:28 |
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In rough seas short distance take offs and slow rotation speeds are king. does anyone know how rough the water can be? max wave height?
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Post subject: Re: US testing the Shin Meiwa amphibian. Posted: 17 Jul 2023, 09:15 |
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Username Protected wrote: Only 8 of them exist from what I read.
It was a derivative of the US-1, and they had more of those. Back in the early 2010's I couldn't tell the difference between the two at MCAS Iwakuni.
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Post subject: Re: US testing the Shin Meiwa amphibian. Posted: 11 Jul 2024, 00:12 |
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Username Protected wrote: Check out the STOL takeoff at around 6:00 - absolutely insane! A 5th engine, 1400 HP, runs the boundary lift system, basically it blows air over the wings. The plane essentially levitates off the water. The plane looks complex to operate and maintain. Seems like a sea going plane wouldn't need a short runway since oceans tend to be big by definition. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: US testing the Shin Meiwa amphibian. Posted: 12 Jul 2024, 05:32 |
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slow landing and takeoff speed coupled with a short take off distance is a real advantage on the ocean where it is usually always rough.
I assume they can use the blown wing on landing also as it is a 5th engine thus short landing also
Great aircraft. this is what the US should buy not try to make a crazy conversion out of the C130
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Post subject: Re: US testing the Shin Meiwa amphibian. Posted: 12 Jul 2024, 10:17 |
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Interesting article on ShinMaywa in AW&ST recently. They only build one a year because their only customer is the Japanese Maritime Self Defense Force (JMSDF) and that's all they want. Increasing production would bring the unit cost down but the JMSDF isn't interested, and there's no other market for the plane in Japan. The company would like to market it outside Japan, but the government won't let them use any plane as a demonstrator, even after the JMSDF retires it, and they can't afford to build a civilian one on spec.
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