Producers of the TBMs…

but also a lot more…

excellent European craftmanship at the highest levels of technology…no "stupid" quarter results..for some braindead Wall Street daytraders…but quality and long term growth and long term relationships with their clients and customers...…

just one example out of quite a few…"Europe First" I would add…without any bull…but old values with the newest technology…maybe some US manufacturers should take a closer look at that…if they want to stay in business...

good avweb vid…

[youtube]https://youtu.be/lEra7HNB4YE[/youtube]

Dye-Air..........this hick Okie never would have pronounced Daher that way.......

As a prior owner of that particular model I can attest that not all of your statement of old values is an accurate description of this particular manufacturer and while there is quality associated I completely disagree with word excellent. Acceptable is more appropriate. But it is just my opinion.

Nice video - I agree.

Whilst the TBM series has a good reputation for quality, the [now defunct] TB series is, or was, a POS . Probably the only "certified" GA plane that's assembled almost 100 % with pop rivets for a start ...

I owned a TB-10 Tobago and thought it a far better design for a 180HP airplane than anything else I've flown. I bought mine because IMHO it far surpassed anything comparable that Cessna or Piper sold. As for its structural integrity, there was an accident in Russia somewhere where one impacted the ground vertically at high speed. When pulled out of the crater with a backhoe, the spar from wingtip to wingtip was still intact, although the rest of the plane had been reduced to unrecognizable tiny pieces within a small circle.

A demonstrably false statement

I'm on my second TBM. It's a great build. Great plane.

A demonstrably false statement

Nice video!
I think that's a Beemer he rides in there with a GPS. Ive worked in manufacturing for most of my life. Steel products, automotive and now agricultural. It's interesting how the painting process in all of those is typically the bottleneck process, often working 24/7.
Labor content and curing time are the causes.
I don't care what y'all say, I still want one. At sub 1 mill for a good used one, the ultimate traveling machine for my typical mission. (Number of pax not an issue)
When in the Belgian special forces decades ago, we would "winter" in Pau, only about 20 or so miles from there for parachute training. HALO, etc. Good times.

Do I need to post photos or are you going to ?

I don't know about the TB but the TBM is built like a tank. Insofar as the video is concerned I thought it was very interesting. Also interesting to me is that when Daher is criticized it seems to come from the French. I wonder what the reason is besides rivets?

I don't know. I find my TB really easy to work on and well built. The wing and landing gear are built like a tank. It makes me want a TBM in the worst way.....

My guess is over 51% is pop rivets, photos at 11.

Point taken, I'll remove "POS" and replace with "inferior quality" if you find that less offensive.

BTW, it's nothing personal, just planes ...

Well I'm not French, but I've lived here for a very long time.

So to answer your question: We see alot of the TB series, so know them well

The "bad rap" comes from generally inferior build quality that leads to shorter life and the use of "non standard" parts, which equates to exorbitant prices if you can even find them.

My guess is over 51% is pop rivets, photos at 11.

Point taken, I'll remove "POS" and replace with "inferior quality" if you find that less offensive.

BTW, it's nothing personal, just planes ...