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Post subject: Sanding Aluminum prior to paint: Opinions Posted: 07 Jun 2017, 10:20 |
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Sanding aluminum is generally not a good thing when painting an airplane but is it acceptable to prepare 74 year old metal via light sanding? I see no other option to get things smooth on my Widgeon prior to painting. The scotchbrite really isn't cutting it. I would prefer not to sand but I'm not sure I have this luxury.
Most paint shops I have visited are sanding the aluminum and I'm not really seeing corrosion or other issues.
Let me know what your thoughts are.
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Post subject: Re: Sanding Aluminum prior to paint: Opinions Posted: 07 Jun 2017, 11:23 |
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Even worse, Grumman seaplanes are anodized. Virtually no corrosion after 73 years!
I guess I'm just getting tired. I've reached a point with the stripping (4th coat) where I'm getting minimal returns now for the time and materials. 99.5% of the paint is gone.
Should I just keep scrubbing???
Mike
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Post subject: Re: Sanding Aluminum prior to paint: Opinions Posted: 07 Jun 2017, 13:31 |
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Joined: 04/04/14 Posts: 1930 Post Likes: +1447 Location: Southern California
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Username Protected wrote: Even worse, Grumman seaplanes are anodized. Virtually no corrosion after 73 years!
I guess I'm just getting tired. I've reached a point with the stripping (4th coat) where I'm getting minimal returns now for the time and materials. 99.5% of the paint is gone.
Should I just keep scrubbing???
Mike Any teenagers looking for gas money nearby? I wouldn't want to remove any anodized material either. What a cool project! I love all the grumman flying boats, please keep posting updates. 
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Post subject: Re: Sanding Aluminum prior to paint: Opinions Posted: 07 Jun 2017, 13:49 |
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Joined: 11/03/08 Posts: 16927 Post Likes: +28751 Location: Peachtree City GA / Stoke-On-Trent UK
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Never sand. All of the paint should be gone. Clean up small problem areas with a small stainless wire wheel on a dremel (not a big one)
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Post subject: Re: Sanding Aluminum prior to paint: Opinions Posted: 07 Jun 2017, 14:17 |
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Joined: 07/02/13 Posts: 3161 Post Likes: +3090 Location: Stamping Ground, Ky
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I found some rubber sanding discs, with 100s of little rubber fingers 3/4 " long. About 2" in diameter. Works good, but slow. Maybe to clean rivet lines.
Call a dry ice blaster? Might be just the thing to finish up. That is my plan for gear wells. My understanding is the ice isn't very good on polyurethane, but if you have it mostly stripped...?
Maybe a plastic bead outfit to clean up now that most of it is gone? Had some guys say they could do mine, but I don't like the idea of residue when blasting inside.
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Post subject: Re: Sanding Aluminum prior to paint: Opinions Posted: 07 Jun 2017, 14:58 |
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Username Protected wrote: Is your bird a Grumman G44 or SCAN? You might want to check, but if my old memory seves me correct, Grumman birds were alcad and SCANs were anodized?  It's a real Grumman which are anodized (not alcad), the SCANs have no corrosion protection and metric fittings.
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Post subject: Re: Sanding Aluminum prior to paint: Opinions Posted: 07 Jun 2017, 14:58 |
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Username Protected wrote: Never sand. All of the paint should be gone. Clean up small problem areas with a small stainless wire wheel on a dremel (not a big one) stainless wire brushes are ok?? I've heard this is a no no?
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Post subject: Re: Sanding Aluminum prior to paint: Opinions Posted: 07 Jun 2017, 15:08 |
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Go easy on the sanding. Watch the rivets! I see too many aircraft with sanded down rivets.
_________________ Former Baron 58 owner. Pistons engines are for tractors.
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Post subject: Re: Sanding Aluminum prior to paint: Opinions Posted: 07 Jun 2017, 15:09 |
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Username Protected wrote: Go easy on the sanding. Watch the rivets! I see too many aircraft with sanded down rivets. I have great respect for rivets....I've seen this too and know the horrors.
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Post subject: Re: Sanding Aluminum prior to paint: Opinions Posted: 07 Jun 2017, 15:36 |
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Username Protected wrote: Never sand. All of the paint should be gone. Clean up small problem areas with a small stainless wire wheel on a dremel (not a big one) They also make brass wire wheels for Dremels, that might be the better choice than stainless.
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Post subject: Re: Sanding Aluminum prior to paint: Opinions Posted: 07 Jun 2017, 15:44 |
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Username Protected wrote: Never sand. All of the paint should be gone. Clean up small problem areas with a small stainless wire wheel on a dremel (not a big one) stainless wire brushes are ok?? I've heard this is a no no?
Most paint shops I have been around use these: http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/tools ... aQodpCQNGg
I would not use stainless steel.
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Post subject: Re: Sanding Aluminum prior to paint: Opinions Posted: 07 Jun 2017, 15:49 |
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Username Protected wrote: Never sand. All of the paint should be gone. Clean up small problem areas with a small stainless wire wheel on a dremel (not a big one) They also make brass wire wheels for Dremels, that might be the better choice than stainless. I'm pretty sure brass is a no-no on aluminum. Stainless is the way to go, if choosing btw the two. I read somewhere the brass leaves microscopic particles which will corrode under paint.
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Post subject: Re: Sanding Aluminum prior to paint: Opinions Posted: 07 Jun 2017, 19:04 |
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Username Protected wrote: I'm pretty sure brass is a no-no on aluminum. Stainless is the way to go, if choosing btw the two. I read somewhere the brass leaves microscopic particles which will corrode under paint. AC 43.13-1B allows Stainless Brushes, also aluminum oxide abrasives like Scotch Brite. It prohibits: (c) Steel wool, emery cloth, steel wire brushes (except stainless steel brush) copper alloy brushes, rotary wire brushes, or severe abrasive materials should not be used on any aluminum surface.
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