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PostPosted: 11 Apr 2017, 11:47 
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This just "grinds my gears"

https://www.reddit.com/r/fpv/comments/6 ... plenty_of/

And a few other idiots chime in too, am I in the minority here that someone should knock on this guys door?

Sorry, on my first cup of coffee this morning and I couldn't think of a better audience than BT for this


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Yea I see photographers post drone pictures and video from WELL above 400' on instagram all the time. I wonder if there has been any enforcement or if they are just waiting for one to actually cause an accident...


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You can't see a typical drone 1 mile away with normal eye sight. The pilot wrote:

"I had a spotter with a scope who actually kept it in view for much of the run"

14 CFR 107.31(a)

"With vision that is unaided by any device other than corrective lenses, the remote pilot in command, the visual observer (if one is used), and the person manipulating the flight control of the small unmanned aircraft system must be able to see the unmanned aircraft throughout the entire flight..."

This flight was illegal, no two ways about it. Not only was it using a scope, but they didn't have it in view the entire flight.

The way the FAA has been heavy handed about drone stuff, they should get some action.

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Reminds me of when some in the last administration were going to award valor awards to drone pilots. (gritting teeth). One of those awards would have worn higher on the uniform than some actual combat awards (folks actually in combat).

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He's not "very happy" with that.
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I think I'm nearing the limit of what you can do with standard 2.4 control/5.8 video, at least without investing in $100+ antennae. My goal is 10 miles out with this setup--If I can get that, I'll be very happy.

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Makes me grumpy, but also have to laugh. It's like bragging about getting laid playing World of Warcraft.

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"I had a spotter with a scope who actually kept it in view for much of the run"

14 CFR 107.31(a)

"With vision that is unaided by any device other than corrective lenses, the remote pilot in command, the visual observer (if one is used), and the person manipulating the flight control of the small unmanned aircraft system must be able to see the unmanned aircraft throughout the entire flight..."

This flight was illegal, no two ways about it. Not only was it using a scope, but they didn't have it in view the entire flight.

The way the FAA has been heavy handed about drone stuff, they should get some action.

Mike C.


If you read the comments they understand its illegal, and basically say "meh... I dont like the law so I dont follow it." :bugeye:

I imagine if any of us wrote something similar here regarding our manned aircraft operations we would be hearing from the FAA shortly.


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This is the least of the rage-inducing aviation stuff on Reddit. I don't know why I participate there sometimes.

Understand that they're mostly 20-somethings on there. We're the old guard, they're the new.

The drone kiddies will end up crushing themselves under the weight of regulation, just like GA is. Hopefully those regs won't come one crash at a time.. although I suspect it will be similar. The idea of traffic separation with binoculars is laughable.

Pitchfork mafia for a drone guy? Nah. Any plane I fly on the reg would effortlessly chop his drone into confetti. If he took out a prop blade of mine (seems highly unlikely), I can just aim for his living room for my "off airport landing", keeping the karmic balance. :D


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This is the least of the rage-inducing aviation stuff on Reddit. I don't know why I participate there sometimes.

Understand that they're mostly 20-somethings on there. We're the old guard, they're the new.

The drone kiddies will end up crushing themselves under the weight of regulation, just like GA is. Hopefully those regs won't come one crash at a time.. although I suspect it will be similar. The idea of traffic separation with binoculars is laughable.

Pitchfork mafia for a drone guy? Nah. Any plane I fly on the reg would effortlessly chop his drone into confetti. If he took out a prop blade of mine (seems highly unlikely), I can just aim for his living room for my "off airport landing", keeping the karmic balance. :D


I think the biggest danger is to the helo guys. Not sure how tough a rotor blade truly is but some drones can get pretty heavy.


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I'm actually more worried about one of these things coming through the windshield. If a 10 pound bird can make it through no problem, not much keeping these heavier drones from doing the same. Maybe I'm wrong and they'll bounce off, but we won't really know for sure until it happens... :shrug:

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I'm actually more worried about one of these things coming through the windshield. If a 10 pound bird can make it through no problem, not much keeping these heavier drones from doing the same. Maybe I'm wrong and they'll bounce off, but we won't really know for sure until it happens... :shrug:

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Time for an episode of Myth Busters, BT style.

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So the drone misses the prop arc and comes through the windshield? I guess this is the scenario where a single is better than a twin :D

A 10lb drone would be one giant flying LiPo battery. Not my favorite idea of flak.

Sectionals are going to be really messed up when they start making Drone lanes and publishing them.


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14 CFR 107.31(a)

"With vision that is unaided by any device other than corrective lenses..."
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What's the problem? He was legal....

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If you read the comments they understand its illegal, and basically say "meh... I dont like the law so I dont follow it." :bugeye:

Isn't that how many people in society today justify their actions? Sanctuary cities, violent protests, etc. Now it's UAV operators. Who's next?

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If you read the comments they understand its illegal, and basically say "meh... I dont like the law so I dont follow it." :bugeye:

Isn't that how many people in society today justify their actions? Sanctuary cities, violent protests, etc. Now it's UAV operators. Who's next?


Maybe a subset of 520/550 owners with certain crankshaft gear issue. :bat:
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