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Post subject: Rotax failure Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 20:40 |
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My buddy's 914 failed taxiing in for breakfast with total seizure due to oil loss. Mechanic did not cover the vacuum accessory drive with the plate . Trashed the $30k motor.
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Post subject: Re: Rotax failure Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 21:25 |
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Username Protected wrote: A Rotax is a 30K motor? Wow!  914 is the TN version, 115hp up to somewhere in the low teens, 1200TBO (a little low), and about 200lbs with everything installed. Outstanding power to weight. I seriously contemplated putting one on my Kitfox (still unfinished, sorry!) but went a completely different way with a Rotec radial.
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Post subject: Re: Rotax failure Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 21:29 |
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Username Protected wrote: Trashed the $30k motor. Yikes. I had no idea.
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Post subject: Re: Rotax failure Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 21:46 |
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Username Protected wrote: A Rotax is a 30K motor? No, it is a $5K motor on an airplane, which makes it cost $30K. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Rotax failure Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 22:25 |
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Joined: 01/30/15 Posts: 1552 Post Likes: +674 Location: Dalton, Ga. KDNN
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Username Protected wrote: A Rotax is a 30K motor? Wow!  914 is the TN version, 115hp up to somewhere in the low teens, 1200TBO (a little low), and about 200lbs with everything installed. Outstanding power to weight. I seriously contemplated putting one on my Kitfox (still unfinished, sorry!) but went a completely different way with a Rotec radial.
Some 914's are up to 1500 hours and later models at 2000 hours. For fairly inexpensive $$$ and not a whole lot of work some lower tbo engines can get the increase. http://docusearch.flyrotax.com/files/pdf/d04785.pdf
Michael, Was the cause of this a new install issue or repair/maintenance work. Any pics of missing plate area ?
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Post subject: Re: Rotax failure Posted: 21 Mar 2017, 08:13 |
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The mechanic overhauled the gear box about 6 months ago. There's a plastic seal in the accessory drive that kept this from happening earlier but the seal finally blew out. My Rotax doesn't have this accessory drive so there's no cover needed; his did. Unfortunately, there is no one to go after; can't really sue a guy working out of his truck. We are just happy this occurred taxiing in and not 5 minutes earlier.
If you stare at the picture above, notice the engine mount is torqued/bent 20 degrees to the left. I can only imagine if the seizure occurred at full power as I believe the motor would have departed the airframe.
These are actually very reliable, sophisticated, light, cool running, smooth, powerful motors; I in no way blame the Rotax. If they built 300 HP motors, Continental would go out of business.
On the other hand, my other buddy had a Rotec (the Australian Radial) and that truly is a terrible engine. Multiple engine failures, cylinder departures, etc.
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Post subject: Re: Rotax failure Posted: 21 Mar 2017, 08:15 |
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Username Protected wrote: A Rotax is a 30K motor? Wow!  914 is the TN version, 115hp up to somewhere in the low teens, 1200TBO (a little low), and about 200lbs with everything installed. Outstanding power to weight. I seriously contemplated putting one on my Kitfox (still unfinished, sorry!) but went a completely different way with a Rotec radial.
It's actually turbo-charged to 39.5 inches.
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Post subject: Re: Rotax failure Posted: 21 Mar 2017, 08:42 |
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Username Protected wrote: A Rotax is a 30K motor? No, it is a $5K motor on an airplane, which makes it cost $30K. Mike C. Which is why I no longer have a fleet of Diamond DA20-A1s, like I once had.
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Post subject: Re: Rotax failure Posted: 21 Mar 2017, 09:58 |
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what happened to bend up the canopy like that? did the engine failure bend the whole airframe ?
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Post subject: Re: Rotax failure Posted: 21 Mar 2017, 12:46 |
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Username Protected wrote: what happened to bend up the canopy like that? did the engine failure bend the whole airframe ? The canopy is fine but check out the motor mount picture.
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Post subject: Re: Rotax failure Posted: 21 Mar 2017, 19:20 |
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I literally watched the failure occur. Going from 3000 RPM to sudden stoppage definitely cause a torque vector enough to bend the motor mount.
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