BeechTalk - BT - USAF's B-21 (FKA: LRSB)

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Feb 2016, 18:36

I wonder what happened to the B-3 thru B-20?

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-ne ... 1761470901

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Feb 2016, 18:45

Guessing that they did not want to call it the B2A but that might have been easier to get in the budget

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Feb 2016, 18:55

Marketing... B-21 for the 21st Century! (Likely our only/last manned bomber)

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Feb 2016, 20:19

Username Protected wrote:

Marketing... B-21 for the 21st Century! (Likely our only/last manned bomber)

The B-52 may well be our last manned bomber. It's a hell of a platform for bombing people who don't have first world air forces.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Feb 2016, 21:44

Over half a billion dollars each.

Lunacy.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Feb 2016, 22:16

When you consider that a Boeing 747-8 lists for 357 million.
500 million ain't that bad a deal

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Feb 2016, 23:06

By 2025!? Not sure it will be that quick.....

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Feb 2016, 11:54

Username Protected wrote:

Over half a billion dollars each.

Lunacy.

I think that is in line with the B-1B and B-2. What are the chances they actually hold that price if / when they build it? We'll fund development, then reduce the number of aircraft bought down to 5 total...

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Feb 2016, 18:14

Wonder how long it will take for the Chinese to have a copy? :scratch:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Feb 2016, 12:47

Username Protected wrote:

I wonder what happened to the B-3 thru B-20?

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-ne ... 1761470901

That reminds me of a question... what happened to Preparations A thru G?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Feb 2016, 12:54

Username Protected wrote:

Wonder how long it will take for the Chinese to have a copy?

That's the procurement plan. Leak the design, let them build it, buy it cheaply from them.

I sometimes wonder if some of the stupid things I see proposed for our military are done just so our enemies spend time trying to make those ideas work.

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Feb 2016, 17:18

Username Protected wrote:

When you consider that a Boeing 747-8 lists for 357 million.
500 million ain't that bad a deal

A govt/defense procurement ...
On-time?
On-budget?
That meets:exceeds the original mission requirements?

Are you new here? :lol:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Feb 2016, 18:00

A long time ago, but the U-2 delivered on time and under budget, exceeding performance goals.

Original contract was for 22.5 million.

Lockheed delivered the aircraft not only on time
but under budget. During the final contract negotiations in the spring
of 1958, Lockheed and the US Government agreed on a price for the
original 20 aircraft of $17,025.542 plus a profit of $1,952,055 for a
total of $18,977 ,597-less than $1 million for each aircraft.

This is the NSA reference;

http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB4 ... er%202.pdf

Username Protected · **Posted:** 01 Mar 2016, 15:41

I suspect the budgeting process back then might have been a bit different... nowadays if you don't spend all the money allocated, you won't get as much the next time! And there seems to be no repercussion for overrunning the budget...

Username Protected · **Posted:** 01 Mar 2016, 16:25

This has the potential to be a very good program, so long as they can get sub contractors in all 50 states and as many territories as possible.