I've been reading this thread with interest -- thanks for all the info. Quick question for those that have actually flown in a P180. How's the headroom for a pilot? I'm 6'6" and with most of my height in the upper body. I currently fly a Citation Mustang and find it's one of the few jets/turboprops that I'm comfortable in. Prior to the Mustang I flew a 421C which also fit me. I also have a Cirrus which "just fits". Thanks.

Brent,

I'd say it's pretty good. I'm six fee and have quite a bit of room over my head. The pilot's seats can be raised up and down and the seat back reclines. The rudder pedals are also adjustable. If you fit in a Cirrus you should fit fine in a P180. When I flew a Cirrus it seemed like my head was just below the headliner.

Brent

I had a Mustang prior to my purchasing my Avanti. I am 5'10" and find that I have tons of room. I think even a tall guy like yourself will find it comfortable once you are actually in the seat. Getting in will be, uh, challenging....

To Marks point the in and out is the problem more than room once seated. If you do not have some dexterity, you are not getting in or out.

I have a large friend - 6’4” maybe 265. He got in but it took us a very long time to get him out. I had to basically drag him out of the cockpit. Fortunately we made the decision to remove him from the cockpit pre-takeoff.

Datz a big man!!!!

Ok, ok... too much drooling, memories, marketing...

Still believe this is worth watching. Enjoy.

https://youtu.be/Ikk1XrBiPTQ

[youtube]https://youtu.be/Ikk1XrBiPTQ[/youtube]

[youtube]https://youtu.be/Ikk1XrBiPTQ[/youtube]

Same S/N 1002 of the picture posted some days ago...

Piaggio has produced 246 Avantis, of which 213 are in service, with 96 in Europe, 95 in the Americas, 18 in Asia-Pacific, and four in Africa and the Middle East, according to the company. The Avanti with the most flight hours – more than 11,000 – is still operating in Canada.

https://www.flightglobal.com/business-aviation/piaggio-marks-a-million-flight-hours-for-avanti/141425.article

Thank you Alessandro Mazzoni for designing the best airplane in its class

33 Avanti’s lost?

I think some of the missing are former Avantair planes that have been cannabalized or are not yet recertified.

Here is a list of 21 accidents:

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/type/P180

Interestingly, not a single fatality.

The Avanti is incredibly strong and well built. The the main wings are machined by a computer-controlled mill from a single piece of aluminum. Forty percent of the aircraft’s structure is made from Kevlar, Nomex or graphite epoxy, etc.; the other sixty percent is made from pure aluminum.

From the accident/incident list above, one ran out of fuel over Greenland and landed on a snow covered glacier. Two were damaged by high wind gusts while parked. Most other accidents were caused by gear problems, and faulty maintenance and pilot error (or pilot incompetence ).

Hope this phone scan is clear enough to show the main wing scavenged from a aluminum monolith...

90% of waste, but recycled! (how many beer cans? )