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Post subject: Re: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX Posted: 01 Jan 2017, 14:08 |
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Joined: 01/12/10 Posts: 1135 Post Likes: +607 Location: Seattle
Aircraft: Cessna TTx
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Username Protected wrote: Steve, Register on this site and you can access the forums. http://www.cessnaadvancedaircraftclub.com/Mark I joined and it looks like no posts in over 30 days there. You have to set your default view. There is also a new posts button on the page top. Hard to get used to one you have been on BT for so long. The Cessna site uses a newer bulletin board but they have no one who knows how to manage/maintain it, yikes... It's worth the time if you want to chat and share knowledge with mostly Columbia, Corvallis, TTx folks.
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Post subject: Re: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX Posted: 01 Jan 2017, 16:24 |
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Joined: 09/27/14 Posts: 16 Post Likes: +4
Aircraft: 1999 A-36TN
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I had signed up for this site months ago, but I didn't see any current postings. I will go back now and check. Thanks
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Post subject: Re: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX Posted: 02 Jan 2017, 17:03 |
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Joined: 09/29/15 Posts: 1335 Post Likes: +824 Location: 3N6-NJ, F45-FL
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I registered but didn't see anything about a fee to join. Still waiting for moderator approval.
_________________ Happy Landings, -Dave
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Post subject: Re: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX Posted: 09 Jan 2017, 18:32 |
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Joined: 01/13/10 Posts: 51 Post Likes: +38 Location: Arlington, TX
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Username Protected wrote: For those of you with experience flying the Cessna 400/ttx can you provide some feedback on what some have reported as "running out of elevator" during the flair on landing? If you've experienced this, under what conditions (CG)? And how did this tendency affect your IAS when attempting short field landings with/without AOA? Thanks! This has been said, but I second it and back it up with the fact that it came right out of Lance Niebauer's mouth... land 5 knots faster and you're good. I started flying it onto the runway like a big airplane and it lands like a dream.
Don't land it fast! The 400 has a ton of elevator and you'll have no problem making a nice, smooth, slow landing with the stall horn blaring. The 350 can be landed with the stall horn on too, it just takes a lot more practice!
_________________ Darryl Taylor General Manager, Air Power, Inc. dtaylor@airpowerinc.com
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Post subject: Re: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX Posted: 11 Jan 2017, 19:40 |
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Joined: 12/17/12 Posts: 170 Post Likes: +117 Location: Des Moines, IA
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I have probably 800 hours or so in the TTx and a couple hundred in the G36 and various other older Bonanzas. The best way I could describe flying the TTx is a massively overpowered F33. The G36 is heavier in pitch but lighter in roll than the TTx. The G2000's a fantastic avionics platform and the FIKI system is extremely robust. The Achilles heel of the airplane is weight and balance. It's extremely payload limited and practically speaking is a 2 person airplane when you start looking at adding TKS, luggage, and taking enough gas to go someplace. There were some teething pains early on but now they're fairly reliable. Cessna just doesn't know how to market a SR22-type airplane to SR22 customers...
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Post subject: Re: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX Posted: 11 Jan 2017, 22:21 |
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Joined: 01/12/10 Posts: 1135 Post Likes: +607 Location: Seattle
Aircraft: Cessna TTx
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Username Protected wrote: Mark,
Is it TKS? Looks beautiful. You'll love her I bet. Yes! Having FIKI makes all the difference for me in capability and legality. The G2000 is simply amazing with up to 6 viewable split screens at the same time, intuitive touch-screen controller and extras like fully coupled AP go-arounds etc... Just love my new sports car of the skies, she handles like a dream.
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Post subject: Re: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX Posted: 12 Jan 2017, 12:00 |
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Joined: 01/13/10 Posts: 51 Post Likes: +38 Location: Arlington, TX
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Username Protected wrote: There were some teething pains early on but now they're fairly reliable. I disagree with this. They are very reliable. After we purchase a TTx, even a brand new one, we run them through the shop and most of the times the customers are able to go annual to annual with only oil changes in between. We have very, very few reliability issues with them. Dispatch reliability is right on par with the 400's and just about any other piston aircraft I've dealt with.
_________________ Darryl Taylor General Manager, Air Power, Inc. dtaylor@airpowerinc.com
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Post subject: Re: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX Posted: 12 Jan 2017, 12:12 |
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Joined: 08/14/13 Posts: 6410 Post Likes: +5145
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Username Protected wrote: There were some teething pains early on but now they're fairly reliable. I disagree with this. They are very reliable. After we purchase a TTx, even a brand new one, we run them through the shop and most of the times the customers are able to go annual to annual with only oil changes in between. We have very, very few reliability issues with them. Dispatch reliability is right on par with the 400's and just about any other piston aircraft I've dealt with.
i think the biggest gripe i've observed over the years on BT from the bonanza drivers is the cost to step up to the TTx or COL400, so they blame W&B, supposed maintenance issues, "FIKI options", etc- it's just the wallet!
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Post subject: Re: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX Posted: 12 Jan 2017, 12:25 |
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Joined: 01/13/10 Posts: 51 Post Likes: +38 Location: Arlington, TX
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Username Protected wrote: i think the biggest gripe i've observed over the years on BT from the bonanza drivers is the cost to step up to the TTx or COL400, so they blame W&B, supposed maintenance issues, "FIKI options", etc- it's just the wallet! That's funny. But you can get into a 2008 400, which in my opinion is the pinnacle year, for less than the cost of a 2006-2008 G36. If you go with a 2006 or 2007, which are still amazing planes, you'll save even more. Of course the TTx is a lot more expensive as they're newer but if one is in the market for the plane the real compelling reason to get a TTx is FIKI. If you don't need, or don't care about it, I'd take a hard look at a low time 400.
_________________ Darryl Taylor General Manager, Air Power, Inc. dtaylor@airpowerinc.com
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Post subject: Re: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX Posted: 12 Jan 2017, 12:35 |
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Joined: 01/10/11 Posts: 198 Post Likes: +58 Company: Marathon Heater Location: Del Rio, TX
Aircraft: 1970 A36, COL 400
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Username Protected wrote:
The speedbrake came in so useful, I used it almost every approach, and even then I ended up too fast or too high a few times (I'm still learning to manage the energy in this plane). I want to get to the point where I don't need the speedbrake (is it cheating?). But the benefit is you can avoid cutting the throttle all the way, and thus avoid shock cooling the engine.
I've got a 400 and I can go months without using the speed brakes. A little bit of thinking of ahead while flying and they're not necessary. Of course, ATC can mess up your plans.
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Post subject: Re: Any Bo drivers ever fly a Cessna TTX Posted: 12 Jan 2017, 12:42 |
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Joined: 01/10/11 Posts: 198 Post Likes: +58 Company: Marathon Heater Location: Del Rio, TX
Aircraft: 1970 A36, COL 400
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Username Protected wrote: My aircraft mission may be changing and I am considering a TTX. Just wondered if any guys here have flown one?
If so, kindly provide your take on pros/cons.
Thanks!
For those asking why I would consider this...
I no longer need 6 seats. Usually just me or me/+1 Fly's Faster, higher and greater range G2000 w/touchscreen G700AP w/ESP FIKI/Speed Brakes I'm a little late to the discussion. I own a 2008 Cessna 400 with thermawing and a 1970 A36. When going somewhere by myself or with one other person, we always take the Cessna. It's a very enjoyable plane to fly, faster, and better suited for bad weather. If it's more than 2 people in the plane or I have a need to haul a lot of stuff, we take the Bonanza. Also, we have a gravel runway we fly into a lot and we take the Bonanza for that as well.
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