BeechTalk - BT - The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Nov 2020, 20:02

Jim - where are getting fuel at $2 gallon? We are double that up my way.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Nov 2020, 23:11

where's "my way" Matt?

$2 is getting harder to find, but does still exist today at some locations around middle of nowhere America.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 25 Nov 2020, 00:16

Username Protected wrote:

-Pressure refueling works well for 2700 pounds. It seems many fuel trucks don't have the oomph to get you all the way there (many do). That missing 100-150 lbs really matters on long legs. Fueling from the top is not convenient. On anything other than max legs none of this matters but when it's freezing cold or precipitating it would be nice to get a full fuel load with the pressure system. I don't think it's the plane's fault but still an issue.

We must be lucky because we typically get 2850 lbs using the single point. There is an EVO on our field and they seem to have the same issue as you. They are usually shy about 100-150 lbs.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 25 Nov 2020, 07:48

I'm in Lancaster, PA....about 1 hour west of philly. Maybe I need to find a new fuel card...my discount never seems to be all that much. My current base in Lancaster 4.40 before discount.

When I finally get my piaggio I've been thinking about moving my home base but fuel prices are about the same at CXY.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 25 Nov 2020, 08:03

someone please send picture of baggage compartment and let us know how much stuff it will hold
Holds 400 lbs so even though smaller than King Air baggage it has to be larger than me Aerostar

Username Protected · **Posted:** 25 Nov 2020, 08:26

Username Protected wrote:

someone please send picture of baggage compartment and let us know how much stuff it will hold
Holds 400 lbs so even though smaller than King Air baggage it has to be larger than me Aerostar

This walkaround video here shows the baggage compartment (and rest of the plane) nicely.

https://youtu.be/s17WjwKJ6Uk

must...not..watch..anymore..piaggio...videos... :ohno:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 25 Nov 2020, 09:24

Baggage is fine for rollies and duffles, not big enough for skis or big things. There is space between the seats for more. When you have a full cabin the storage space seems a little light.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 25 Nov 2020, 11:28

Username Protected wrote:

Jim - where are getting fuel at $2 gallon? We are double that up my way.

It's currently at $2.10 in the Texas panhandle at KDUX for anyone with any card. That's on my way home from the east coast, and there's BBQ on the field.

Even with the "local's discount," I pay over $3.50 at my home field less than an hour away.

Without disclosing exact prices, I can say that my CAA card saved me the yearly membership fee before I'd finished my ten hours of transition training - and I haven't even paid the fee yet. It's free for six months.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 25 Nov 2020, 11:34

Username Protected wrote:

someone please send picture of baggage compartment and let us know how much stuff it will hold
Holds 400 lbs so even though smaller than King Air baggage it has to be larger than me Aerostar

It's about 5 feet long. About 3 feet high. The compartment on the I's is slightly different and a tad smaller because of the difference in cooling system IIRC.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 25 Nov 2020, 12:20

What is CAA card? Thanks

Happy Thanksgiving to all.

Best,

Tom

Username Protected · **Posted:** 25 Nov 2020, 12:44

Username Protected wrote:

What is CAA card? Thanks

Happy Thanksgiving to all.

Best,

Tom

It's a fee based fuel program for non 135 operators. Often the best prices on a given field, but not always.

https://www.corpaa.us/the-caa-preferred-fbo

Username Protected · **Posted:** 25 Nov 2020, 15:07

Thanks Tony. Approx how much fuel does one have to use to justify joining this program? Sorry to deviate the thread.
Best,
Tom

Username Protected · **Posted:** 25 Nov 2020, 15:15

Username Protected wrote:

Thanks Tony. Approx how much fuel does one have to use to justify joining this program? Sorry to deviate the thread.
Best,
Tom

The fee is $600/year. I've seen discounts from $0.25 to over $2.00 per gallon off retail pump price.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 25 Nov 2020, 15:18

Has anyone heard of or seen a 6 seat config switched to the 7 seat config? I'm looking at a plane now and it does NOT have the divan. Not a huge deal but I can see it being handy with the kids.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 25 Nov 2020, 15:19

It should be emphasized, these are Jet-A programs and prices y'all.