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Please please Jeff’s can this sack of shite. It really is an albatross of a thread. I say we take poll!

I enjoy Mike C’s posts on the SF50 topic. He brings a different perspective which is valid and thoughtful. Those of you insulting him are doing the rest of us a disservice.

Funny. I don’t see anybody insulting Mike but Mike. Quite embarrassing actually. And runs off calling somebody a liar? It’s embarrsing to BT. Like Tony said it goes back to the old Politics thread. A horrible affair of disrespect, and berating. BTW. You been around for all 500+ pages?

Yes, I have. Every page.

I stick by what I said. I enjoy Mike’s posts, right or wrong.

You are far more insulting than he.

There's nothing inherently wrong with having an opinion and being consistent and relentless in your dissemination of it.

Agreed!
Except one should always remember that it's an opinion, not facts...

All good things come to an end!

Uh Gee Whiz Thanks John. Regards noted. Another highly regarded opinion comes to light on this dynamic inspiring informative POS of a thread. (Where one can just let it all hang out)

Do we begin to see a pattern here? That is healthy and conductive to civil conversation?

It’s getting like Hotel California; you can check out, but never leave

Agreed Dave. I like Mike. I actually applaud the efforts of Cirrus. For GA. Crazy dream for personal transport, but a start. But the thread IMHO (I don’t have to win having lost far too many times to know the value of losing) has denigrated to personal attacks. That’s (again IMHO) not what BT is about. But, anyway, hopefully I’ll get my heater fixed and be on my way.

If you are troubled by this thread, there is a simple solution:



Just click on that 'X' and the thread will not trouble you any more.

We just need another announcement from Cirrus, or another evaluation by a magazine. Something to get the thread back on topic, instead of a battle escalating opinions.

One of these days we'll have an SF50 owner on BT that's willing to 'tell all'.
That's what keeps me coming back to this thread.
Some day soon (I hope)...

Is it civil discourse, discussion, or something else. Something much more personal? Like I said I like Mike. But in the scheme of things two quotes come to mind:

Roosevelt: “It is not the critic that counts; nor the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”

And more succinctly: Einstein:

““A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new.”

And

“Imagination is more important than knowledge.For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create.”

And

““Stay away from negative people. They have a problem for every solution.”

Of course the list goes on and on.

The fact is psychologically critics sit in the “cheap seats”. It’s safe, secure, and houses lots of others

Same boat here.

If Mike were not posting, I would have quit reading this thread and many others on BT long ago. He brings objective viewpoints and is open to counterpoints.

That would be ideal. Some ownership perspective could be enlightening.