BeechTalk - BT - Pilatus PC-12 October Announcement????

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Oct 2019, 19:49

Username Protected wrote:

Here is takeoff ground roll.

Wow, that’s a lot better than I was under the impression of. Hmmmm... :scratch:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Oct 2019, 20:37

Landing attached.

My understanding is the reputation for long runway is Bc when operated 135 you have to use balanced field calc. It’s long when you use those.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Oct 2019, 23:35

So we are single pilot too I'm assuming?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Oct 2019, 23:58

Not bad at all. How about a maximum speed cruise chart?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Oct 2019, 07:31

This conversation drove me to Controller as I'll bet it did a few of you. What a beautiful, capable airplane! There is nothing to dislike about this aircraft if the maintenance expenses are predictable. The discussion of the gear overhaul being eye wateringly expensive just reminds me that you have to look at the total cost of owning a plane to create perspective and make a rational judgement about it.

For me the keys would be expected maintenance expenses over time, dispatch rate, depreciation and average time on market. Anyone know where to get that?

In the TBM community all those things are easily available, as I am sure they are for the PC12 and other turbines. If it can be determined for the Avanti I'd be seriously interested. My only complaints about the TBM are operational altitude (which isn't bad but 40k would just about insure you're on top of weather with no need to deploy IS and slow down) and speed (because faster is always better and I can't go non stop to the west coast in a time interval my butt is comfortable with).

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Oct 2019, 07:31

Username Protected wrote:

So we are single pilot too I'm assuming?

Righto!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Oct 2019, 09:23

Funny how Adam has been screaming this for years and even started a thread on the Piaggio and no one listened. He must be smiling now

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Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Oct 2019, 10:10

Username Protected wrote:

This conversation drove me to Controller as I'll bet it did a few of you. What a beautiful, capable airplane! There is nothing to dislike about this aircraft if the maintenance expenses are predictable. The discussion of the gear overhaul being eye wateringly expensive just reminds me that you have to look at the total cost of owning a plane to create perspective and make a rational judgement about it.

For me the keys would be expected maintenance expenses over time, dispatch rate, depreciation and average time on market. Anyone know where to get that?

In the TBM community all those things are easily available, as I am sure they are for the PC12 and other turbines. If it can be determined for the Avanti I'd be seriously interested. My only complaints about the TBM are operational altitude (which isn't bad but 40k would just about insure you're on top of weather with no need to deploy IS and slow down) and speed (because faster is always better and I can't go non stop to the west coast in a time interval my butt is comfortable with).

I didn't call on any of these, so they could be ghost listings.......but of the 12 P180's on JetNet, the youngest has been on market for 162 days, while the oldest is listed as 1589 days. There are 17 Avanti II's, ranging from 14 days to 1244 days. There are no Evo's listed(on JetNet).