The PC12 is a great plane for what it is made for, carry a lot, far to anywhere. But what give the PC12 that utility would be my biggest criticism for the average owner pilot. Most of us owner pilots spend a lot of time flying by ourselves or with a few passengers, on pretty short trips.

It was eye opening for me to graph my flights and come up with my average trip length. I would have guessed between 600-1000 nm. While I remember those 1000, 1500, 2000 nm trips as some of my most challenging and fond, 1/3 of my flights are by myself and most on pretty short flights. So flying such a big and relatively expensive bird to acquire, operate and maintain, on such average short and light trips is just a waste of money, fuel, maintenance costs, as well as ramp and hangar space.

Otherwise it is a great plane. Probably makes little sense in reality for most owner pilots, but we all optimize our own ideals.

The PC12 is a great plane for what it is made for, carry a lot, far to anywhere. But what give the PC12 that utility would be my biggest criticism for the average owner pilot. Most of us owner pilots spend a lot of time flying by ourselves or with a few passengers, on pretty short trips.

The PC12 is a great plane for what it is made for, carry a lot, far to anywhere. But what give the PC12 that utility would be my biggest criticism for the average owner pilot. Most of us owner pilots spend a lot of time flying by ourselves or with a few passengers, on pretty short trips.

Most of us owner pilots spend a lot of time flying by ourselves or with a few passengers, on pretty short trips.

John, I too recommend the Oregon Aero seat cushions. Another PC12 owner / pilot recommended them when we purchased the airplane and the seat cushion is very comfortable - makes the long flights much easier!

Still not clear on the real world operating cost.

How much per hour for Fuel and engine reserves?
How much per hour for MX
whats your average speed and fuel burn per hour?

I see the benefit for the PC12 over the older jets is operating cost. But its not clear what that is and I wonder if the older the PC12 has more MX and decreases the gap between it and the older jets?

For my plane I ignore fixed cost like capitol, insurance, hangar, annual, etc.. And just look at what it cost me per trip. I see the fixed cost as a biz expense just like a office space or employee. For my Mirage I figure it cost me $375 each way for my 550 mile trip to LA. Thats MOH reserves, fuel, and oil changes

See attached spreadsheet. Maybe someone can copy a line and add the PC12 from their experiance? Note I used Miles instead of NM, I forget why LOL

Mike

Using the same instructions as those 3D illusions posters... my understanding is that you need to let your eyes drift out of focus to see the numbers clearly.

Now listen up, we're master debaters and cunning linguists on this thread............
say that quickly three times

Still not clear on the real world operating cost.

How much per hour for Fuel and engine reserves?
How much per hour for MX
whats your average speed and fuel burn per hour?

I see the benefit for the PC12 over the older jets is operating cost. But its not clear what that is and I wonder if the older the PC12 has more MX and decreases the gap between it and the older jets?

For my plane I ignore fixed cost like capitol, insurance, hangar, annual, etc.. And just look at what it cost me per trip. I see the fixed cost as a biz expense just like a office space or employee. For my Mirage I figure it cost me $375 each way for my 550 mile trip to LA. Thats MOH reserves, fuel, and oil changes

See attached spreadsheet. Maybe someone can copy a line and add the PC12 from their experiance? Note I used Miles instead of NM, I forget why LOL

Mike

Adam(s)

Did you guys get the 1/2", 1" or 2" cushion also I assume you chose the straps over the non skid?

Pennman - thanks for nothing, I thought we were buds . Now I understand how you can tolerate 6+ hr legs.

All in all slightly more expensive than a Piper Cub and certainly more economical than Pennman's Tesla.