That would be at the cost of an “SIC REQUIRED” limitation on the rating.

I’d be up for a little more challenge if you offered up a deal in the Lancair.

Is there a certain amount of experience before one can fly Single Pilot ?

Robert

Just precision and non-precision approaches that can be of any type - VOR, GPS, ADF, LOC. But i believe if any avionics are operational then it is fair game for the DPE to request using it.

So assuming you have an MEL allowing the GPS to be inop then you can pull the CB, tie wrap it, and placard the GPS inop before the check ride.

listen to all this is boosting my ego and confidence so when I go in 10-17 days to get my 501 SP type rating sounds like even I can pass it!! cant wait, ready to fly the 501SP to Spanish wells regularly and get over weather plus non stop to sw and 1 stop coming home
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still going to fly Cheyenne I also, but truly looking forward to the Citation I SP

it's all Rick Ott's fault, now we are neighbors in Spanish Wells and I want a faster bird to go back and forth

501 SP & 551 SP just take type rating if MEL, IFR

500 & 550 TYPE AND SP Exemption rating as well requires MEL, IFR and min 500 hrs Turbine time

Some of the things that initially troubled me when I got my first type was: I didn’t understand how to properly use a Flight Director and I didn’t know the SOPs. I quickly learned both. Interestingly, the sim based schools have a curriculum and all boxes must be checked. A DPE in an airplane not so much. I was once told by a nationally advertised DPE that “ the FAA approves me based on what I know, not what I do. I can tell when we’re taxiing out if the applicant can fly the airplane” YMMV

Robert

As Allen says, it's fair game because it is in the bible, the PTS:

"If the practical test is conducted in the aircraft and the aircraft has an operable and properly installed GPS, the applicant must demonstrate GPS approach proficiency. If the applicant has contracted for training in an approved course that includes GPS training, and the airplane/simulator/FTD has a properly installed and operable GPS, the applicant must demonstrate GPS approach proficiency."

Ken

Sorry, off the topic, but there is one great advantage to a KLN-89B in a Citation:

It makes the airplane feel 200 knots faster!

There's more to flying safely than meeting the regulation.

In this case, I prefer a plan where I get some preliminary experience in the actual airplane, then do a complete and full type course in the sim.

That will also meet the regulation and converts the initial exposure from one of "pass the test", to one of "let's do things I want".

Mike C.

Logging question:

I fly the 501SP, but not typed.

I can't log that as PIC because, even though I am sole manipulator, I am not rated in the aircraft.

So how do I log that time, takeoffs, landings, approaches?

As dual received? Log as usual just not in PIC column?

You'd think I'd know this, but it has been decades since I flew an airplane I'm not rated in.

Mike C.

The SPE requirements (from Simcom SPE, others are similar if not identical):

Commercial or ATP

1000 hours total time

50 hours night

75 hours instrument (40 in actual)

500 hours turbine (PIC and SIC count)

I easily exceed all those requirements except the commercial rating, I'm still private.

Mike C.

I’m glad to hear you say that. It seems that so many of these discussions get reduced to, “How can I complete my type rating in as little time and as little effort as possible?”

Get your SIC first which entails review of the systems, three takeoffs, landings and approaches then you can log it as dual received and log all the approaches, TO and landings.

Mike we make regular trips down to the Bahamas fishing and your always welcome to come along with us and get some seat time, next trip leaves next Saturday. I can always use an extra swab.

Gary

Why do you need an SIC to log those things?

Mike C.