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 Post subject: Re: I own a Mooney: Ask me anything
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I had one of those. It was a fun little airplane. I could barely fit in it and operating the Johnson bar gear was a challenge. I had to get rid of it before I got in trouble. I couldn’t resist doing straffing runs with it. Flew great though.


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 Post subject: Re: I own a Mooney: Ask me anything
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I had an 86 252 for about 5 years and close to 500 hours. They aren't hard to land...it's just really easy to screw up the landing with an extra 5 knots airspeed over the numbers. Ask me how I know...... It's also such a clean airplane that it is very, very easy to have that extra 5 knots and requires some advanced planning


yes, 100ft of float for ever extra knot. Forcing it on to the ground is a surefire way to bounce. There's more than a few people who like 80 on final and half flaps, and wont (can't) go into anything shorter than 3000ft. I find that steep, full flap, power off approaches to the threshold at 75 indicated will have me off the runway in 1500ft,



I had no experience in any other model of Mooney other than the one I owned, but I thought it was a very sweet landing airplane. The key, as mentioned, was speed control. The sweet spot for the Bravo over the fence is between 70 and 75 kias depending on weight. I have heard from pilots with experience in them all that the long body Mooneys (Bravo, Acclaim, Ovation) are the best landing of the brand.

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What is the fastest land animal?

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 Post subject: Re: I own a Mooney: Ask me anything
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My only Mooney flight was in a M20F and while I loved the control feel and the size was fine except my 29" Inseam had my face in the panel.

What Mooney's come with adjustable rudder pedals?


So the answer is none?

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 Post subject: Re: I own a Mooney: Ask me anything
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My only Mooney flight was in a M20F and while I loved the control feel and the size was fine except my 29" Inseam had my face in the panel.

What Mooney's come with adjustable rudder pedals?

All models, just need to install an optional kit. I think there is 1.5” and 3” extensions.


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 Post subject: Re: I own a Mooney: Ask me anything
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What is the fastest land animal?

Cheetah, whose top speed is pretty close to the stall speed of a Mooney.


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What is the fastest land animal?

Cheetah, whose top speed is pretty close to the stall speed of a Mooney.

What is your name?.....What is your quest?.....What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

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 Post subject: Re: I own a Mooney: Ask me anything
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I love my 1981 Mooney 231 and I have about 1100 hours in it. I use it for work and also fly Angel Flights regularly - over 100. The airplane is terrible to get into and out of for anyone larger, or anyone with even a minor orthopedic issue. Sometimes, it's downright humiliating for passengers who have to crawl onto the wing to get out. If I have more than a single passenger, getting into the airplane is like playing Tetris.

Other than that, it's a great travel airplane. It's nice and solid, well mannered, and really well-built. Someone commented on the Bonanza being better built and perhaps that is true, but for me, of all the GA airplanes I am familiar with (I am not familiar with any Beech) the Mooney is the best engineered. The fuel system is simple with a great selector valve (strong detents) and only three options, left, right and off. The door is simple with a single lever to engage two pins. The panel is designed for anything you throw at it and laid out for IFR. The wing has really nice heavy skins with flush rivets. The list of AD's is paltry. Although everyone raves about the pushrod control linkages, I think the control forces in pitch and roll are too heavy. That said, the rudder is nice and light.

Landing is easy but not landing short isn't. At the recommended 73 kt approach speed you will use more runway that you like but the airplane lands like a dream. It does not like to fly an approach much slower than 73 kts. At between 62-70kts the airplane is piggish, heavy, nose high, and downright uncomfortable. The benefit is that going slower means it uses way less runway and really saves the tires. It took me about 600 hours before I felt really comfortable with an over the fence speed of under 73 kts.

All in, I do love my Mooney, but if I had a 182 RG, a Bonanza, a Comanche . . . . I'm sure I would love them too.

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Accepting you said you aren't an engine guy...

You mention your 540 makes 270 hp @ 2575 @ 38". I see naturally aspirated 540's that make 300 hp at 2600 or 2700. Why does it take an extra 8" of manifold pressure to make 30 hp less?


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No Mooney questions?
1. is it cramped???
2. why are mooneys so hard to land?
3. can you really do 160 on 6gph?

1. Yes - when my friend wanted to sell me his Mooney (which I had flown on and off for 10+ years), my wife said “NO, AND HELL NO!”. After flying in a Bonanza, she said, “GET ONE, NOW!”

2. Never had a problem landing one - stay on speed - they land like a lot of other planes

3. No - the best I was ever able to do in my fiends Mooney (20E) was 139 knots on 9 GPH


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 Post subject: Re: I own a Mooney: Ask me anything
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Low compression pistons for the blower


I didn’t know this.

This engine will maintain full MP to 22,000 (The so-called “critical altitude”)


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No Mooney questions?
1. is it cramped???
2. why are mooneys so hard to land?
3. can you really do 160 on 6gph?

1. Yes - when my friend wanted to sell me his Mooney (which I had flown on and off for 10+ years), my wife said “NO, AND HELL NO!”. After flying in a Bonanza, she said, “GET ONE, NOW!”

2. Never had a problem landing one - stay on speed - they land like a lot of other planes

3. No - the best I was ever able to do in my fiends Mooney (20E) was 139 knots on 9 GPH


We have verifiable, repeatable data from our plane that shows a really well-rigged and cleaned up M20J like ours will do 159-162 KTAS at around 9.5-10.2 GPH LOP. But most are 155 KTAS and 10 gph, ballpark.

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Accepting you said you aren't an engine guy...

You mention your 540 makes 270 hp @ 2575 @ 38". I see naturally aspirated 540's that make 300 hp at 2600 or 2700. Why does it take an extra 8" of manifold pressure to make 30 hp less?

Different engine, the angle valve 540's make 300hp, the parallel valve engines make about 10-15% less depending on the CR and RPM. Same displacement, but completely different engine.

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I put 555 hrs on N9124X, a '91 Bravo that we owned for a while. Loved that plane!


And I put a couple of hundred hours on that same airplane before selling it to Jack (when I got twin fever).

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