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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 01:01 |
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Joined: 12/03/14 Posts: 20781 Post Likes: +26295 Company: Ciholas, Inc Location: KEHR
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Username Protected wrote: Pressurization is the issue I believe. And that would explain an altitude reading of 9000 ft crossing the runway threshold how? Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 01:05 |
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Joined: 05/29/13 Posts: 14574 Post Likes: +12365 Company: Easy Ice, LLC Location: Marquette, Michigan; Scottsdale, AZ, Telluride
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Username Protected wrote: Pressurization is the issue I believe. And that would explain an altitude reading of 9000 ft crossing the runway threshold how? Mike C.
Not really overthinking it. I have no issue in non pressurized planes but always issues in pressurized planes. Not a hard conclusion but maybe wrong.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 08:40 |
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Username Protected wrote: Flew the C510 into KHPN today. Nice bird. Sporty winds 37 knots 40 degrees off the nose. Working it. Plane is basically as fast as the 550 but burns half the fuel. Video has some NSFW language. Click the hyperlink NOT the thumbnail. To get a sense of the turbulence orient the video as though you were looking at me from the copilot seat. [youtube]https://youtu.be/X5OyL5fD5SQ[/youtube] As usual great vid Mark.  And great flying. I didnt see any sweat this time. Just mild profanity. Typical pilot stuff.... Now go fly the phenom 100 and give me a comparison. I sure like the visibility out of that cockpit. And being 6'3" have plenty of room.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 12:54 |
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Joined: 11/25/16 Posts: 1982 Post Likes: +1589 Location: KSBD
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Username Protected wrote: Nice landing Mark! The tree limbs and garbage cans were the only thing flying here yesterday (I live just up the road from KBDR). Not my pic, but an Embraer reported a 50kt shear.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 02 Mar 2019, 18:35 |
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Joined: 03/09/13 Posts: 929 Post Likes: +472 Location: Byron Bay,NSW Australia
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Username Protected wrote: You’re flying a Citation and the hydraulic flow and low level lights come on.
You head to an airport knowing you need to blow the gear down. You pull the uplocks and blow the donut.
On landing you have no brakes and have to pull the emergency brake.
What happened? Forgot to put gear handle down?
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 02 Mar 2019, 18:44 |
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Joined: 03/09/13 Posts: 929 Post Likes: +472 Location: Byron Bay,NSW Australia
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Username Protected wrote: Exactly....which means the electric/hydraulic brake motor won’t run.
Nice! Correct. So people know the hydraulic system for the brakes is seperate to the main system. So the hydraulic low pres will not effect brakes. Andrew
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 02 Mar 2019, 21:37 |
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Username Protected wrote: You’re flying a Citation and the hydraulic flow and low level lights come on.
You head to an airport knowing you need to blow the gear down. You pull the uplocks and blow the donut.
On landing you have no brakes and have to pull the emergency brake.
What happened? Didn’t run the QRH properly.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 02 Mar 2019, 22:29 |
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Username Protected wrote: Didn’t run the QRH properly.
OK...should have started with “you are single pilot and injested birds at 2,000’ on departure” :roll:
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 02 Mar 2019, 23:00 |
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I dropped my II off for some maintenance yesterday. I'm singing a different tune than the Klingon Citation I that never broke and was super cheap to maintain and still is for the new owners. The II has been a little buggy.
Here was the squawk list:
1) left pitot heater pops breaker in the rain 2) left and right engine heat lights don't go out, amps flicker 3) automatic air knob spins around and around 4) left pilots window whistles at high differential, proseal inside. 5) GPWS internal GPS fault 6) GDL 69 won't activate XM weather, update software, check antenna? 7) lower left EL panel not lighting up 8) no bleed air coming from right engine, replace valve? 9) right N2 gauge goes up and down at idle, replace gauge or sender? Right engine throttle sloppy, idles high. 10) nose retract actuator leaking fluid 11) replace boot conductive sealant 12) a few minor phase inspections....
Anyways, the goal is to be under $5K but I'll report back. I love the II, it's a much better airplane than a I.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 02 Mar 2019, 23:02 |
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The QRH works for both single pilot and two pilot.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 02 Mar 2019, 23:20 |
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Username Protected wrote: The QRH works for both single pilot and two pilot. You know...I think you’re right about that.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 02 Mar 2019, 23:23 |
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Username Protected wrote: I dropped my II off for some maintenance yesterday. I'm singing a different tune than the Klingon Citation I that never broke and was super cheap to maintain and still is for the new owners. The II has been a little buggy.
Here was the squawk list:
1) left pitot heater pops breaker in the rain 2) left and right engine heat lights don't go out, amps flicker 3) automatic air knob spins around and around 4) left pilots window whistles at high differential, proseal inside. 5) GPWS internal GPS fault 6) GDL 69 won't activate XM weather, update software, check antenna? 7) lower left EL panel not lighting up 8) no bleed air coming from right engine, replace valve? 9) right N2 gauge goes up and down at idle, replace gauge or sender? Right engine throttle sloppy, idles high. 10) nose retract actuator leaking fluid 11) replace boot conductive sealant 12) a few minor phase inspections....
Anyways, the goal is to be under $5K but I'll report back. I love the II, it's a much better airplane than a I. For which squawk?
_________________ Views are my own and don’t represent employers or clients My 58TC https://tinyurl.com/mry9f8f6
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