banner
banner

15 Jul 2025, 14:32 [ UTC - 5; DST ]


Concorde Battery (banner)



Reply to topic  [ 364 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 21, 22, 23, 24, 25
Username Protected Message
 Post subject: Re: Boeing Starliner: 80 Problems
PostPosted: 07 Mar 2025, 23:12 
Offline


 WWW  Profile




Joined: 12/03/14
Posts: 20472
Post Likes: +25754
Company: Ciholas, Inc
Location: KEHR
Aircraft: C560V
Username Protected wrote:
Well, the 'stranded' astronauts seem to believe a return at an earlier date was possible, but rejected by the Biden Admin....

Depends on what you read:
Attachment:
astronaut-news.png

Lots of articles that directly contradict each other on what the crew said. Their words are being twisted to suit whatever bias the media wants reinforced.

When reading news stories, be sure to detect "interpretations" of what someone said instead of quotes of what they actually said. Better yet, see and hear the conversation directly.

Whatever SpaceX offered to do, it wasn't going to be free. Musk presents it like this "offer" to go get them, but it really was a request to get more money. Manned spaceflights cost way more than satellites, about $300M per (Crew 10 to 14, 5 trips, is $1.5B, per contract), so even if NASA was aware of this, that's not money sitting around they can just spend. Is bringing down the two astronauts 7 months early worth $300M to US taxpayers?

Where is the reporter who asks Musk "what were you going to charge to go get the astronauts?". Are there any journalists any more? Or do reporters who ask questions like that get banned from the press conferences?

Musk seems hell bent on cutting government "waste" unless it is a contract he profits from.

From what I can tell, no serious offer was presented to NASA, so this is all posturing, propaganda, misinformation, whatever.

Mike C.


Please login or Register for a free account via the link in the red bar above to download files.

_________________
Email mikec (at) ciholas.com


Top

 Post subject: Re: Boeing Starliner: 80 Problems
PostPosted: 08 Mar 2025, 14:09 
Offline



User avatar
 Profile




Joined: 04/26/13
Posts: 21761
Post Likes: +22359
Location: Columbus , IN (KBAK)
Aircraft: 1968 Baron D55
Username Protected wrote:
this is all posturing, propaganda, misinformation, whatever.

Bingo.

I vaguely recall some talk late last year about sending up a dedicated Crew Dragon to bring them back. This was one of the considerations along with "just stuff 'em back in the Starliner and cross your fingers". and "wait for another ride later". Choice A was considered too expensive given that the crew was safe and the delay in returning them was not a big deal to NASA or the astronauts. Choice B was considered too risky. So, here we are, following the plan that NASA made (not the "Biden Administration"). I'm pretty sure that Biden didn't give a rip which choice they made so long as the crew got back safely. It was NASA's call, and Bill Nelson made it long before he left the position on 20JAN25. Since then, Acting Administrator Janet Petro, who was nominated by and reports directly to the President, has not elected to accept any "rescue" offers and is proceeding with the plan as it stands.

I fail to see how any of this rises to the level of Soap Opera, let alone political intrigue and conspiracy.

_________________
My last name rhymes with 'geese'.


Top

 Post subject: Re: Boeing Starliner: 80 Problems
PostPosted: 02 Apr 2025, 08:10 
Offline


 WWW  Profile




Joined: 09/02/11
Posts: 1842
Post Likes: +2327
Location: N Alabama
Aircraft: 1968 B55
Whooo, there are some details in this article I haven't seen before.

Username Protected wrote:
I don't know that we can come back to Earth at that point. I don't know if we can. And matter of fact, I'm thinking we probably can't. So there we are, loss of 6DOF control, four aft thrusters down…


Well worth a read.


Top

 Post subject: Re: Boeing Starliner: 80 Problems
PostPosted: 02 Apr 2025, 20:28 
Offline


 Profile




Joined: 06/13/10
Posts: 86
Post Likes: +86
Location: Nassau Bay TX
Aircraft: 1973 E55 Baron
Good article. Thanks for posting.


Top

Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic  [ 364 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 21, 22, 23, 24, 25



PWI, Inc. (Banner)

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  

Terms of Service | Forum FAQ | Contact Us

BeechTalk, LLC is the quintessential Beechcraft Owners & Pilots Group providing a forum for the discussion of technical, practical, and entertaining issues relating to all Beech aircraft. These include the Bonanza (both V-tail and straight-tail models), Baron, Debonair, Duke, Twin Bonanza, King Air, Sierra, Skipper, Sport, Sundowner, Musketeer, Travel Air, Starship, Queen Air, BeechJet, and Premier lines of airplanes, turboprops, and turbojets.

BeechTalk, LLC is not affiliated or endorsed by the Beechcraft Corporation, its subsidiaries, or affiliates. Beechcraft™, King Air™, and Travel Air™ are the registered trademarks of the Beechcraft Corporation.

Copyright© BeechTalk, LLC 2007-2025

.CiESVer2.jpg.
.camguard.jpg.
.kingairnation-85x50.png.
.dbm.jpg.
.tempest.jpg.
.centex-85x50.jpg.
.boomerang-85x50-2023-12-17.png.
.rnp.85x50.png.
.bullardaviation-85x50-2.jpg.
.mcfarlane-85x50.png.
.aviationdesigndouble.jpg.
.traceaviation-85x150.png.
.KingAirMaint85_50.png.
.tat-85x100.png.
.Wingman 85x50.png.
.SCA.jpg.
.pdi-85x50.jpg.
.gallagher_85x50.jpg.
.garmin-85x200-2021-11-22.jpg.
.jandsaviation-85x50.jpg.
.kadex-85x50.jpg.
.ssv-85x50-2023-12-17.jpg.
.ABS-85x100.jpg.
.ocraviation-85x50.png.
.midwest2.jpg.
.concorde.jpg.
.Latitude.jpg.
.geebee-85x50.jpg.
.saint-85x50.jpg.
.shortnnumbers-85x100.png.
.blackwell-85x50.png.
.wat-85x50.jpg.
.AAI.jpg.
.holymicro-85x50.jpg.
.sierratrax-85x50.png.
.Elite-85x50.png.
.daytona.jpg.
.temple-85x100-2015-02-23.jpg.
.wilco-85x100.png.
.jetacq-85x50.jpg.
.b-kool-85x50.png.
.KalAir_Black.jpg.
.Wentworth_85x100.JPG.
.MountainAirframe.jpg.
.planelogix-85x100-2015-04-15.jpg.
.puremedical-85x200.jpg.
.blackhawk-85x100-2019-09-25.jpg.
.bpt-85x50-2019-07-27.jpg.
.headsetsetc_Small_85x50.jpg.
.stanmusikame-85x50.jpg.
.performanceaero-85x50.jpg.
.aerox_85x100.png.
.airmart-85x150.png.