BeechTalk - BT - Cessna Denali

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Mar 2020, 00:39

Username Protected wrote:

The other day I heard “Bishop Traffic, red & white Skylane downwind runway XX, Bishop”.
And several more “red & white Skylane” radio calls.
When I landed I saw the red & white Skylane. It had a large N number on the side. I guess that was just decorative.

Large as it was, you couldn't read that N number in the air, could you? So what good would it do having it in the radio calls?
What radio call would have been most useful to you, and why?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Mar 2020, 02:01

Username Protected wrote:

The other day I heard “Bishop Traffic, red & white Skylane downwind runway XX, Bishop”.

And several more “red & white Skylane” radio calls.

I’ve been flying since 1982 and never heard that before.

When I landed I saw the red & white Skylane. It had a large N number on the side. I guess that was just decorative.
:tape:

If you share the pattern with me you’re going to hear “Tan Baron.” If you’re close enough to read my N number you’re way way too close.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Mar 2020, 03:22

Username Protected wrote:

The other day I heard “Bishop Traffic, red & white Skylane downwind runway XX, Bishop”.

And several more “red & white Skylane” radio calls.

I’ve been flying since 1982 and never heard that before.

When I landed I saw the red & white Skylane. It had a large N number on the side. I guess that was just decorative.
:tape:

very common in the midwest. I say things like that quite often. No one can read a number but everyone can see a color.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Mar 2020, 08:57

Username Protected wrote:

If you share the pattern with me you’re going to hear “Tan Baron.” If you’re close enough to read my N number you’re way way too close.

+1. I never use my N Number at non towered airports. Nobody can see it anyways.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Mar 2020, 09:06

Username Protected wrote:

The other day I heard “Bishop Traffic, red & white Skylane downwind runway XX, Bishop”.

And several more “red & white Skylane” radio calls.

I’ve been flying since 1982 and never heard that before.

When I landed I saw the red & white Skylane. It had a large N number on the side. I guess that was just decorative.
:tape:

Colors are descriptive and create an image in your mind allowing you to keep track of multiple planes at a busy uncontrolled field. Its also in the AIM.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Mar 2020, 09:07

Red tail Dragger entering downwind. Red Cessna TD sometimes at non towered. I can’t read the tail number I hope traffic never can...

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Mar 2020, 09:09

“Red Twin Cessna.....”

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Mar 2020, 10:27

Somewhere in some rulebook I think it says that you're supposed to use your official callsign on the radio (N number, flight number, FCC callsign, whatever).

I think that's fine for the first call but if you do that with every single call then it clutters up the airtime and does nothing to improve communication, smooth traffic flow, or anyone's safety.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Mar 2020, 13:53

Username Protected wrote:

If you share the pattern with me you’re going to hear “Tan Baron.” If you’re close enough to read my N number you’re way way too close.

I don't even say Bonanza, I just say white V-tail. :shrug:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Mar 2020, 09:25

Username Protected wrote:

Red tail Dragger entering downwind. Red Cessna TD sometimes at non towered. I can’t read the tail number I hope traffic never can...

Same here: Red Bonanza entering downwind. If you can read my tail number, you are way too close.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Mar 2020, 10:08

Username Protected wrote:

Same here: Red Bonanza entering downwind. If you can read my tail number, you are way too close.

Yup... when the police send out a BOLO, they give the subject car's physical description, not the VIN.

Having said that... there are some airports, such as Leesburg, VA (JYO) where the rules have you announce your full N number each time. But that's to keep the Forces of Darkness happy, not for other pilots' situational awareness.