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 Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread.
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Tomorrow will not be a good day for the P180. Collins has no ADC's available.

https://www.federalregister.gov/documen ... -airplanes

:doh: Thanks for the heads-up Steve.

Of note for several of us who operate Avanti I airplanes, it only applies to the Avanti II and Evo, i.e. Proline 21 airplanes.

(c) Applicability

This AD applies to Piaggio Aero Industries S.p.A. Model P-180 airplanes, serial number (S/N) 1002 and S/Ns 1105 through 3010 inclusive, certificated in any category.


It also looks like they are giving 24 months or 660 hours to comply. Maybe Collins can get their act together by then.


I didn’t look closely - but it appears it was effective 10/22, 24 months up now…

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 Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread.
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I didn’t look closely - but it appears it was effective 10/22, 24 months up now…

Oooh... you're right, I didn't pick that up...

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I just had an ADC overhauled by them .... 26K .... but I have a 1 so its moot. This sounds ominous for the II's though unless Collins has re stocked..


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Since it's been a couple years, maybe most of the fleet got updated already?

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 Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread.
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I'm seriously considering buying a P180 with a home base in the NY area (KTEB, KHPN, KFRG, etc.). Would love to do this with a partner (either join someone who already owns one or buy one with someone else). Can also dry lease for X hours per year.

Any interest? Any insight on the best way to go about this? Currently own a DA62, so this will be a step up.

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 Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread.
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Since it's been a couple years, maybe most of the fleet got updated already?


It's been introduced in Europe in 2019 with a requirement to update by 2021, so I assume all planes have been updated.


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Since it's been a couple years, maybe most of the fleet got updated already?


It's been introduced in Europe in 2019 with a requirement to update by 2021, so I assume all planes have been updated.


I don’t think so. We are just doing ours now.

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Have not posted pics of Piaggio speed lately. It was a hot late summer in the flight levels. Things starting to cool down, and as a result, speed up :)

Efficiency is staggering.


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What was FF up there, Anthony?

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Impressive. My Evo is slower by 20 knots or so.


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What was FF up there, Anthony?


560 lbs hr iirc


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What was FF up there, Anthony?


560 lbs hr iirc

Last week eastbound, I was at FL390, ISA+7, 10,500 lb, TIT 780C, 495 lb/hr, resulting in 354 KTAS.

My airframe is a hair slower than Anthony's but... the breed is nicely efficient. :)
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Well gents, I'm no longer an official member of the Piaggio gang.

From now on, Ill watch the thread in silence like a nerdy highschooler on the sidelines watching the cool kids be cool...while being stuck flying planes half as beautiful.

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Well gents, I'm no longer an official member of the Piaggio gang.

Sorry to hear that Matt! Hope you've got an alternative working out for you.

(Happen to sell it to anyone on here?)

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The three different altimeter readings are killing my OCD. Do you wave down to the Slowtations as you zip by them on your way up to FL390 at nearly 400KTS? The 370KTAS is impressive.
....but it is an Avanti.

Also, having been in the back quite a few times and in the pointy end a time or two, those are amazing aircraft and a lot quieter than I thought they would be. That sound when they are in the pattern, though, is like listening to a Stradivarius played by a master violinist - just beautiful!


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