The -14 is awesome for power, but not so much for overhaul etc as it's the "big block" Garrett and more costly. The one to go for is a the -12, most likely. That's the most powerful of the "small block" TPE's.

One problem with the Garretts is that they're not reverse flow inlets, so a little harder to adapt to a pusher config. I'm sure it's doable, just need to figure out the exhaust/inlet/shaft thing.

Not sure the cost new, I've heard Honeywell also take every OEM to the cleaners, but at least te overhauls are considerably cheaper than PT6.

Looking forward to seeing more about the Catalyst.

Doesn’t every predator drone have a 331 in the pusher config?

Zeke

The MQ-9 Reaper does.

Hadn't seen it from this angle before.

https://www.controller.com/listing/for- ... p-aircraft

This asks for a significantly lower price than others. Are there some reasons behind this?

Pretty high total time on the airframe, I would guess. Engines have probably been overhauled twice (2000 hours ago would be roughly 7200 hours at 2nd overhaul, if they did it at 3600 intervals), which might mean next o/h could have expensive parts coming due. Depends what all was done at previous overhauls, devil is in details, and a real PT6 expert might be able to give useful guidance in that respect.

Says PT6A-66 engines in advertisement when most Avanti II came with -66B engines. Some of the early IIs may have had -66 though. Could just be typo in the advert, but it would be worth understanding which they really are before buying. -66 (non-B) would be somewhat lower valuation in a II.

Call Bryon Mobley at Wetzel and ask about it, he was pretty straightforward and helpful when I spoke with him before I bought. He has posted at times in this thread.

Tian,
If this were a 2006 PC-12 with similar times price would be double.
This plane is a bargain if you go in eyes wide open and have some reserves for future engine replacement.

Interior is 2019

Engines are 66A.
I have a friend with a close sn# and his are 66A’s

If you must fly 500hours per year on a tight schedule then maybe not the right airplane.
Parts are available. Airplane is amazing

500 hours in for me and no AOG and no big $ ouches

On display at EBACE:

As a complete aside, Rinaldo Piaggio started the company in 1884, which makes Piaggio 140 years old this year. Must be the oldest continuously operated aircraft manufacturer in the world, I'm guessing. They've built aircraft since 1915, so almost 110 years of experience in aviation now.

Morane-Saulnier which became SEEMS, then Aerospatiale, then Socata then Daher was founded in 1911. Manufacturing aircraft continuously.

Well you are both wrong. Short Bros. of Ireland is the oldest continuous manufacturer in the world.... 1908.

I wasn't claiming oldest! Just older than Piaggio

I wish they were more actively building airplanes today, to build some critical mass in the market. There may be a few, but it’s kind of a trickle.

I was just reading up on the latest and it looks like they've extended bidding window until end of 2024 at least, so no new owner in sight unfortunately. I also think Italian government is going ot be a bit picky about who owns it, doubt it's just a highest bidder thing. Let's hope they find the right owner soon.

I wish I had VC friends with very deep pockets. I humbly offer my services as CEO

Regarding the higher time P180 mentioned above (1121)

Happy to discuss, but I’m +8 at the moment in Europe after EBACE. Not a bad airplane, but we are helping the owner sort through the mess that Aerovanti left…It does have a D coming due, along with a few other things, but it does have fresh Hots/mid time engines.

This aircraft does have -66’s and was delivered that way, along with several other early II’s. This was common specifically with early Avantair II’s that got delivered prior to the 66B certification. I can’t remember exactly, but I think Piaggio offered a no cost swap to the B post cert, or a discount if the straight 66 was kept. Avantair opted to keep the 66’s, likely due to lower cost.

We’ve got this aircraft available, along with 1039 and 1056. My associate Michael Ioffredo will be in the office this coming week and can answer any other questions about any of them. http://www.wetzelaviation.com, (Mike’s cell 720-326-0796)michael@wetzelaviation.com.

Thanks
Bryon Mobley