Interesting. After checking, they're actually California based company. So if they win it, Piaggio would be controlled from its biggest market, which is positive. They also have aviation background.

Interesting. After checking, they're actually California based company. So if they win it, Piaggio would be controlled from its biggest market, which is positive. They also have aviation background.

Perhaps this one.
http://grerangroup.com/management/
If so, he’s got a passion for wine and aviation.

He is a passionate winemaker and enjoys picking the grapes for his handcrafted Ca’ Del Grevino wines. He is involved in all aspects of the wine from the organic practices to five year bottle aging in the winery. All the wines are deeply rooted in an Italian wine making tradition, hand-picked and focused on low sulphites with higher alcohol content.

Ing. Grewal has continued the family generational interests in real estate through the Greland Group. Real Estate holdings have been expanded in concentrated niche locations with a twenty-five year horizon on value monetization. These holdings continue to be diversified in Asia, Europe and the US.

He continues his active engagement within the aviation sector under Greavia and between 2014-2019 was the Chairman of AJW Group, the largest global specialist in the supply, exchange, repair and lease of commercial aircraft spare parts. Greavia-AJW continue their venture in China. Greavia is actively pursues counter-cyclical opportunities within the aviation sector globally.

Correct

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/greran-g ... er_android

A potential owner with quarter century or longer goals would cause me to be giddily exuberant to an exceedingly higher degree than even my last three years flying this mystical marvelous beauty of an airplane

I think the new owner should run ads with copy like ‘An extra foot makes all the difference, just ask the wives of Piaggio pilots.’ It could be above a cabin overlay of a Piaggio vs a Citation.

Cold temps up high today. Nice speed for FL390.

Couldn’t agree more!

Another delay for final bids...but at least its just a few weeks if they can get it done.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... dline-bids

One of the things about the Piaggio is that it seems to have a variety of intermittent or just odd ball errors that don't repeat themselves. Sometimes those malfunctions come at an interesting phase of flight.

Sunday flying the visual into KABQ I pickled off the AP when cleared for the visual to RWY 3. As you know when you pull the power back and get below 180 for gear and then 170 for approach flaps there is a pitch down of the airframe. So, depending on speed, vertical descent rate and configuration you need to begin trimming pretty early in the process. And once you get to 150 and add in landing flaps there is a significant downward pitch which requires a lot of up trim.

Generally I'm on the switch just about continuously it seems until short final when the trim finally catches up. This time there seemed to be no response to the trim. I asked my copilot to verify that the needle wasn't moving on the trim panel (just in case the increasing force required on the yoke was my imagination). It wasn't.

I asked him to switch to back up trim and use the panel switches which he did. As you know it takes a looonnng time for that trim to work. I don't know what the lifting force require to keep the nose on glide path was but I noticed I was essentially standing on the rudders and pulling very hard. Eventually the pressure began to lessen as the trim came in. Squeaked the landing.

Of course, once on the ground pitch trim worked flawlessly. No more issues the next couple of legs. Sort of like when steering fails happen at the wrong time in takeoff, landing or turning off a taxiway you have to always be vigilant. Usually, turning somethig off and back on, unplugging and replugging or simply taking to the shop with a squawk (with no technician action) fixes the issue.

It takes a lot of strength, or at least effort, to hold the nose up.

I took a "slight" gamble when I did my previous owner a favor and took my Piaggio off their hands.

Bought plane without an official prebuy.
I looked over logs and noticed previous owner had dropped serious coin on maintenance (new brakes and both prop and gear overhaul) over last two years and figured my risk was in line with discount I was getting for taking plane off their books in December. I was correct, thankfully.

Only thing I missed was my two stage trim motor was SINGLE STAGE trim motor.
When flying plane early on I thought, ok this is the one drawback of this airplane...trim is slow. I learned my high speed trim was not working at Flight Safety training.
New trim motor and all is well.

Piaggio guru said we should be running trim from
stop to stop regularly on the ground during run up and taxi to exercise range and keep in shape.

Vegas, California, Bahamas, Virgin Islands and maybe Iceland this year....whoohoo...
What a ride

Brad,

I've bought lots of planes without a prebuy. They've always turned out well. On the P180 it hadn't flown hardly at all in 2 years as the oil/gas economy was in the dumps and owner was a oil patch supplier. The prebuy came up with about $150k in deferred maintenance. He couldn't afford to do it on time or at sale so we knocked it off the price. He wanted to haggle but I'm not sure he could afford to fly it home from ICJS so I held firm. Glad I did that one!

Tony - could the pitch trim have been frozen?

I suppose that's possible but since the plane is stored inside and we had had severe clear weather in KABQ there weren't any climatic conditions that may have caused it and since it hasn't happened before I tend to think its not that.

What I do think is more likely is a loose connection somewhere. We've had that issue with a number of items. Unplugging and replugging wires and connectors seems to solve all kinds of problems.

I see this a lot. My strategy for anything like this is to actually troubleshoot before any of the items are done that most people will tell you to do. Unplugging/replugging and spraying cleaner/deoxit in connections just means the problem gets masked until it happens again.

I've found a LOT of bad female pins and intermittent switches by troubleshooting in a non-disturbing manner.

Nothing wrong with cleaner/deoxidation products, I just hate doing it before the root cause is found. A lot of issues can be found with end-to-end ohmmeter checks.

Im in the market for an Avanti I, if someone knows of a good one Im ready to buy