Is there the option to install a PFD controller in a 501 such as the Garmin GCU 485? I think I’ve seen where Mike C has it in is V but wasn’t sure if it was STC’d for the 501.

Yes, easy to do! It is approved for the 501.

If you can keep the line monkeys from resting the fuel hose on the deice boots. I catch them doing that all the time.

Fueling an MU2 was no fun, but I trusted some FBOs to do it right.

The Citation is much simpler to fuel. The only problem is the time it takes to get that much more fuel into the tank. I've actually done more self serve in the Citation than I did in the MU2.

Mike C.

Same here. Drives me nuts they can't hold the hose for 5 minutes.

Both JD and I had MU-2s and 501s. The 501 is unquestionably less expensive to maintain and an order of magnitude safer, more capable and enjoyable. I like the MU-2 but it's in a different league than a jet.

so what is the difference between the 500sp, and the 501?

There is no 500sp.

There is a 500, Citation I, part 25, 2 pilot airplane.

There is a 501, Citation I/SP, part 23, single pilot airplane. Some folks call them 501SP, but I don't believe that term was ever used by Cessna, at least not officially.

There are basically the same airplane physically and there is/was a way to convert one to the other by SB.

There are 550, Citation II and 551, Citation II/SP in a similar way.

Mike C.

I believe there is a 501 that is not SP.



Robert T

News to me

ALL airplanes built on/after 1977 left the factory physically the same in the 501 configuration. If it was immediately exported to Canada or Europe or Japan it was called a 500 and was a 2 pilot airplane. If it was for the US market, it was a single pilot 501. 99% of the export post 1977 export 500s trickled back to the US and were converted to a 501. There are still a few 501s that are actually still 500s on paper and therefore technically are 2 pilot airplanes. I've seen it twice in my life!

There was one or two short wing 1976 or before 500s that were converted to 501s by the Cessna factory!

Any 501 can be a 2 pilot airplane if it doesn't meet the single pilot requirements in the AFM.

As far as I know, all 501s are single pilot eligible if the equipment matches the AFM requirements for single pilot ops.

Mike C.

Any 501 can be a 2 pilot airplane if it doesn't meet the single pilot requirements in the AFM.

As far as I know, all 501s are single pilot eligible if the equipment matches the AFM requirements for single pilot ops.

Keep your plane and articulate the boom mic up and away for the flights where you want an SIC required.
Or alternatively buy a headset without a boom mic

Take your headset off and use hand mic and it magically is a 2 pilot airplane!

check out this airplane-

https://www.controller.com/listing/for- ... t-aircraft

duals G600s and dual 530s.

who does the STC on the G600s? and would this airplane have altitude preselect?
is that a well-worn path (G600s)?