I've got places I pay $3.50 a gallon. And it's just getting cheaper. You guys are wrong about the future of private aircraft travel. It will continue to grow in popularity. Commercial sucks bad and there's no Ebola on my plane.

Agreed 1000% percent. Commercial with 8 kids sucks an even bigger one. Screw the Ebola, I'm more worried about the radiation for the TSA machines

So why the comment about "nobody lives in the country"? You say you live in the city, now you say you live in the county, contradicting yourself either way. Either you live in the country or you don't, which is it?

Irrelevant of all that silliness, it would be great to see GA improve...just doing my part buying lots of avgas.

Either one of us, with a substantial investment, could start a company that could produce a small turboprop engine that would cost less than a piston engine. It's entirely doable. But you'll never see that from P&W or Honeywell - they're too comfortable.

Or maybe this little contraption from Lockheed will one day be real. Then we'll all fly intercontinental jets virtually for free. Make sure you watch the little clip:

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/Lockheed-Says-Its-Fusion-Reactor-Could-Power-Airplanes222910-1.html

Unless you are flying a diesel engine. A 182 and 172 running diesel is pretty GA. I'll do mogas on the lighter ones.

50 years from now pilots won't be allowed to control an aircraft over populated areas. We will all be unsafe compared to the computers. That probably will be a true statement too. Sad but true. We've wanted to fly for thousands of years and we might be lucky to enjoy 150 years of it. Just the way it is.

My autopilot is flying as I type this from altitude. Soon it will do everything and I'll be a passenger.

Like the other Jason, I'm very pleased with the sub $4 jet-a now. It really makes a big difference and will for lots of GA guys!

Thinking I need an older 58 now for fun... Since prices are dropping. Or ---gasp--- a 310.

Or maybe even travel through time

Williams did start out doing disposable highly efficient turbofans.
Maybe we can buy some surplus cruise missiles. I could stick a pair on my duke.

So why the comment about "nobody lives in the country"? You say you live in the city, now you say you live in the county, contradicting yourself either way. Either you live in the country or you don't, which is it?

Irrelevant of all that silliness, it would be great to see GA improve...just doing my part buying lots of avgas.

Five.




Class B has pretty much the same rules as TCA's did 25 years ago. Same size too.

I've said it before (though we've all said all of this whole thread before) I think we are about to experience an enormous and unprecedented explosion in GA, almost unimaginable to us now, but commonly imagined in the era of the Jetson's etc. It will include drones, and pilotless passenger-carrying planes of all sizes.
Any town giving up a runway now will regret it very soon.

The old GA - meaning the one being lamented here - was an utter failure.

As far as Twin Prices - it's never been a better time to buy!

But the basic math of all twins; two good motors, a good panel, a decent airframe, paint and interior = 150 - 175 AMU at a minimum - anything less is deficient somewhere. So no matter what you pay, that's what it costs - and it seems like a red hot bargain to me.

Some day the good classic twins will be valued appropriately - meaning much higher - but there will be far fewer of them. Think Stradivarius.

Unless you are flying a diesel engine. A 182 and 172 running diesel is pretty GA. I'll do mogas on the lighter ones.

50 years from now pilots won't be allowed to control an aircraft over populated areas. We will all be unsafe compared to the computers. That probably will be a true statement too. Sad but true. We've wanted to fly for thousands of years and we might be lucky to enjoy 150 years of it. Just the way it is.

My autopilot is flying as I type this from altitude. Soon it will do everything and I'll be a passenger.

Like the other Jason, I'm very pleased with the sub $4 jet-a now. It really makes a big difference and will for lots of GA guys!

Thinking I need an older 58 now for fun... Since prices are dropping. Or ---gasp--- a 310.

I would contest this data. I have bought many very capable twins for under $100k that were not deficient.

They had new paint, new interior, modern avionics, and low time motors?

Ebola sucks test those girls on your pilatus

1978 Duke 300 SMOH both sides (good shop) and recently done, 3 year old paint, 3 year old leather interior, rebuilt autopilot, winglets, extended fuel, NDH, $60k. Needed $40k spent on the panel to make it pristine. So, $100k for a beautiful low time Duke with modern panel

Bought many Colemill Barons with low to mid time engines for under $100k and an extremely nice 58P with a 100 hour engine and 1000 hour engine for $100k with good avionics. All these planes had full de-ice and radar as well.

Plenty of twins out there for sale and there will be more. More people are flocking to experimentals and plastic planes with parachutes.