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 Post subject: Re: A tale of two workhorses Citation V vs King Air 350
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Not saying this is the case with KA but let's say there are lots of gust lock accidents with a certain model aircraft. It could be that the design of the gust look is not great and allowing pilot errors. So then its possible its the aircraft designs fault.

Same with PA46 nose gear. At some point it's the design thats causing pilots to make mistakes.

One of the most important parts of aircraft design is the human interface. If a system is built to do its job well but confuses the pilot then its not really a good design.

It's like in road construction where they change the flow of traffic. If they do so and there are a bunch of skid marks and crashes at the point of the change then they probably could have done a better job of the design. You cant just say well it's the drivers fault for not paying attention.

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 Post subject: Re: A tale of two workhorses Citation V vs King Air 350
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Again, the King Air is a VERY safe aircraft, when you consider over 8000 airframes produced and over 62 MILLION fleet hours, no other aircraft compares.

The Citation fleet has flown more miles and more passengers with less deaths.

I'd say that compares quite favorably.

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I posted this also on the crash talk thread of the Twin Otter crash in TN. But it is a great cockpit video showing setting takeoff power in the Twin Otter and copilot tightening the friction locks after power is set. Then Captain rotates keeping one hand on the power levers.

They swap after liftoff with copilot guarding the power levers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPGI1IG8SVo


But then here is another with no attempt at the same details.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmm4Nq060Wo


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