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Post subject: Re: Aerostar vs C-421C Posted: 29 Jan 2026, 09:20 |
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Joined: 01/10/17 Posts: 2486 Post Likes: +1857 Company: Skyhaven Airport Inc
Aircraft: various mid century
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Having fun helping a new owner with this 421. The problem is they are all getting old. Troubleshooting weird electrical problem with post lights and finally traced it to a broken collar on the firewall connector and over the years people had over tightened the post light connectors to the point it was pushing the center pins to contact the outer threaded portion sometimes and popping the transistors. But not all the time and random lights would cause it on different circuits.
Then when you get in there you find radio harnesses long abandoned with others in their place and poorly made/installed by repair stations. Only solution is to pull it all out and start over.
The airframe has held up well. This one was a med flight airplane in Denver for most of its life. Logs show engines making TBO. I used to fly another B and took the engines to TBO without ever pulling a cylinder.
I think the accessories will be the weak point more than large airframe components. Working Pressurization controller parts, valves, pumps, deice timers etc. Starter adapter dampeners. Quill shafts and some other unique parts. bushings, some bolts in the gear and little things like fuel cap parts. eBay and scrap yards have been a good source of "working when removed" for now to try or have as cores.
It is about in the same position Beech 18s were 15-20 years ago. Less and less working for a living. A few become pets and parts are out there but services for the components are starting to dry up.
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Post subject: Re: Aerostar vs C-421C Posted: 29 Jan 2026, 09:24 |
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Joined: 08/24/13 Posts: 10468 Post Likes: +5033 Company: Aviation Tools / CCX Location: KSMQ New Jersey
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Username Protected wrote: over the years people had over tightened the post light connectors to the point it was pushing the center pins to contact the outer threaded portion sometimes and popping the transistors. So few people understand what the spring is for on post light connectors and why you don't overtighten.
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Post subject: Re: Aerostar vs C-421C Posted: Yesterday, 00:52 |
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Joined: 01/02/08 Posts: 8136 Post Likes: +6260 Company: Rusnak Auto Group Location: Newport Coast, CA
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Username Protected wrote: So few people understand what the spring is for on post light connectors and why you don't overtighten. Thread drift here but can you elaborate on that? My Baron panel is lit by post lights - I use a 1/4 open end wrench to tighten the connector but only until it felt slightly snug. Is that too tight?
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Post subject: Re: Aerostar vs C-421C Posted: Yesterday, 04:07 |
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Joined: 12/18/12 Posts: 875 Post Likes: +438 Location: Europe
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Username Protected wrote: Having fun helping a new owner with this 421. The problem is they are all getting old. Troubleshooting weird electrical problem with post lights and finally traced it to a broken collar on the firewall connector and over the years people had over tightened the post light connectors to the point it was pushing the center pins to contact the outer threaded portion sometimes and popping the transistors. But not all the time and random lights would cause it on different circuits. Hah, just been deal'n with same issues on a 310R - I just pulled all the post lights and put in a LED strip, much easier to deal with .
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Post subject: Re: Aerostar vs C-421C Posted: Yesterday, 09:37 |
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Joined: 08/24/13 Posts: 10468 Post Likes: +5033 Company: Aviation Tools / CCX Location: KSMQ New Jersey
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Username Protected wrote: So few people understand what the spring is for on post light connectors and why you don't overtighten. Thread drift here but can you elaborate on that? My Baron panel is lit by post lights - I use a 1/4 open end wrench to tighten the connector but only until it felt slightly snug. Is that too tight?
The key is that you don't compress the spring that is inside the plastic connector all the way. You confirm that by pulling on the wire, it should have some play (between 1/16" - 1/8").
If it is tightened too much the spring completely compresses and starts pushing the bulb out the front of the post light, then it becomes an intermittent light.
I don't ever use a wrench to tighten them, just finger tight. You can still get them too tight by finger.
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