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Post subject: Re: WTB: MU2  Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 15:17 |
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Username Protected wrote: I have two 2,400 remaining mid time Garretts sitting in my hangar that I paid $60K for both motors. Let's not scare the world with 100K repair bill stories. Sure, those problems exist but I have a lifetime of Mitsubishi motors for less than the cost of a new IO-550. Where the heck did you get those?? That’s a sweet deal.
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Post subject: Re: WTB: MU2 Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 15:22 |
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Username Protected wrote: I don't think you could stick Garretts on an Experimental Duke for anything under $750,000 even if you did all the work yourself. Abandon this terrible idea please! Exactly - why waste the time, effort and money - just by an MU2 and be done with it.
Only because there wouldn’t be $7,000 initial / $3,000 a year ongoing training. The big question would be insurance.
And no, it wouldn’t cost $750,000. It’s only 1 million for the PT6 conversion including two brand new motors, all installation work, winglets, VG’s, and Ventral strakes.
That said, it certainly wouldn’t be cheap. I estimate at least $100,000-$150,000 in labor alone and you’d be experimental/exhibition. That’s the biggest issue really.
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Post subject: Re: WTB: MU2 Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 16:04 |
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Not sweating it, just noting it.
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Post subject: Re: WTB: MU2 Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 18:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: I paid $3200 plus gas for my initial. If you're sweating this, that Duke is going to give you a heart attack man! Who did you use?
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Post subject: Re: WTB: MU2 Posted: 18 Dec 2019, 23:53 |
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Username Protected wrote: Dick Allen He's still around! Amazing. George
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Post subject: Re: WTB: MU2 Posted: 19 Dec 2019, 00:22 |
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I looked but didn't find any contact info for him anywhere.
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Post subject: Re: WTB: MU2 Posted: 03 Jan 2020, 13:39 |
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Thanks for the cell number, may come in handy. I was looking into the fixed yearly costs on this just out of curiosity (insurance, hangar, etc), and I contacted The Fournier Group about insurance. With over 15,000 hours total time, flying 600+ hours a year on average, about 300+ hours in King Airs single pilot, you would think someone would want to at least quote it, even if high. However, the rep at Fournier is telling me that AIG, US Specialty, and Global all *declined* to quote it at all. If some of you don't mind saying, who are you guys going through and what's the ballpark yearly premium and on what hull value, (generally)? Thanks, and Happy New Year! 
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Post subject: Re: WTB: MU2 Posted: 03 Jan 2020, 15:09 |
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Username Protected wrote: Thanks for the cell number, may come in handy. I was looking into the fixed yearly costs on this just out of curiosity (insurance, hangar, etc), and I contacted The Fournier Group about insurance. With over 15,000 hours total time, flying 600+ hours a year on average, about 300+ hours in King Airs single pilot, you would think someone would want to at least quote it, even if high. However, the rep at Fournier is telling me that AIG, US Specialty, and Global all *declined* to quote it at all. If some of you don't mind saying, who are you guys going through and what's the ballpark yearly premium and on what hull value, (generally)? Thanks, and Happy New Year! Man if they won’t quote you I guess I shouldn’t even ask.
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Post subject: Re: WTB: MU2 Posted: 03 Jan 2020, 15:15 |
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Username Protected wrote: Thanks for the cell number, may come in handy. I was looking into the fixed yearly costs on this just out of curiosity (insurance, hangar, etc), and I contacted The Fournier Group about insurance. With over 15,000 hours total time, flying 600+ hours a year on average, about 300+ hours in King Airs single pilot, you would think someone would want to at least quote it, even if high. However, the rep at Fournier is telling me that AIG, US Specialty, and Global all *declined* to quote it at all. If some of you don't mind saying, who are you guys going through and what's the ballpark yearly premium and on what hull value, (generally)? Thanks, and Happy New Year! Man if they won’t quote you I guess I shouldn’t even ask.
Not sure what you mean by that, but if they won’t quote me with my experience level, then no one would get insured.
People with lots of experience but no MU2 time have to get insurance somewhere.
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Post subject: Re: WTB: MU2 Posted: 03 Jan 2020, 15:16 |
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I think he meant, "Man, if they won't quote YOU, I guess I shouldn't even ask....." (i.e., someone with your experience level)
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Post subject: Re: WTB: MU2 Posted: 03 Jan 2020, 15:18 |
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Username Protected wrote:
Man if they won’t quote you I guess I shouldn’t even ask.
Not sure what you mean by that, but if they won’t quote me with my experience level, then no one would get insured. People with lots of experience but no MU2 time have to get insurance somewhere.
That’s exactly what I meant.
I have 1/20 your hours, but mine are the hours everyone tells you to get to ready yourself for a twin turboprop (600 hours of IFR in a Baron).
I was thinking about floating the idea of an MU2 with my broker at renewal time in March.
Given that they won’t discuss it with someone with your resume I might as well forget about it for me.
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