If you lose an engine on approach in a PC12, just yank the gear and flaps up, slow down to best glide (while holding altitude) and you're golden (most likely, your millage may vary). You might actually come up a bit high depending how much speed you had to shed while trading it for altitude.

Wouldn't one feather the prop, or is that automatically taken car of?

Wouldn't one feather the prop, or is that automatically taken car of?

Piston twins are by far the least safe airplane in the sky.

Wouldn't one feather the prop, or is that automatically taken car of?

I think you could easily make a SETP or SEJ every bit as save as any piston twin simply by avoiding long overwater flights and always flying conservative takeoff and landing profiles which permit landing on a runway if the engine quits before you reach a cruising altitude in the flight levels. That would leave your exposure to something well under a minute or two per flight. OTOH, I'm not sure how you could remain on such a profile while flying most instrument approaches so you'd probably have to add that window to the risk area.

There's always the Hudson!

Seems like a lot of approaches have you at 2000 AGL at 10 miles or more from the runway. I know a few sailplanes that can glide that far but can a PC-12 or TBM do that?

I looked at their website. I actually like the plane. Single engine turbine and with a parachute. And best of all, it will fit in a lot of peoples hangars.

Only problem is there must be a long wait for one. I hear they have a huge back log of orders.

I think this is a winner. Will they make a bigger one?

I’m not sure how it’s done in the west but here in northeast PA we are typically held down for long arrivals and departures. Piston singles, twins and twin turboprop. When I leave PHL northbound I am usually almost to Allentown before I can climb higher than 4000ft. Headed to anywhere in the area from a small airport to small airport IFR you cannot climb above 10K unless you are headed on a long trip. From South Jersey regional to northeast PA N27 with the Kingair 200 I can rarely get over 5000 until I get to Allentown area also. NY corridor can be the same problem if your not an airliner. Leaving east of PHL for Dayton they hold me down until I get past the airliner climb corridors west of PHL then I climb under the airliners. All around the city past MXE (northwest of PHL) I’m low. Same on arrival from BUNTS or Lancaster.

There are large amounts of time that a single jet or single turboprop cannot make an airport or a safe landing area. The entire Poconos are trees with few flat open fields. I follow the turnpike with the singles VFR but IFR it’s not an option. Night and IFR I will not do it with any single. Turbine or piston.

Arrivals to Chicago exec I am frequently held down low over Lake Michigan many miles from shore. Wintertime or low weather makes no difference.
Do controllers handle the single jets or turboprops differently in those situations for normal operations?

Piston twin will make it just fine just to keep them from being too trashed in this thread.

You have no idea about that, nor does anyone else in this world. There are no statistics for every twin that just feathers and goes on to his destination. Until such statistic exists, it's all just dick waving.

You have no idea about that, nor does anyone else in this world. There are no statistics for every twin that just feathers and goes on to his destination. Until such statistic exists, it's all just dick waving.

With statistics you can prove anything. You do know a P180 is much, much safer than a PC12, (or any other aircraft), right? No fatalities ever in P180's, lots of them in PC12's and everything else. How can you fly a death trap like a PC12? Don't you care about your passengers?

Planes don't crash sitting in the hangar or junkyard. P180's don't fly compared to PC12.

Planes don't crash sitting in the hangar or junkyard. P180's don't fly compared to PC12.

Touche'