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Post subject: Re: Well he sold the B58TC and built a 414... Wow..  Posted: 08 Nov 2014, 14:39 |
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Username Protected wrote: That is 1 nice airplane..
Any Chance we could get some rough dollar amounts for this project?
Also- It looks like you can get land at St. Barts BUT can you get out? I believe departure, over the water, should not be too tough.
Spike- Still need enough runway to get airborne with enough fuel. I was curious of the performance of the 414. St. Barts get pretty hot.
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Post subject: Re: Well he sold the B58TC and built a 414... Wow.. Posted: 09 Nov 2014, 14:38 |
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Username Protected wrote: Wrong airplane for St-Barts. Split Flaps are all drag, no lift. That's what it looks like but that's not true. Take another look at Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators split flaps are fairly lift efficient.
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Post subject: Re: Well he sold the B58TC and built a 414... Wow.. Posted: 10 Jul 2015, 16:58 |
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Username Protected wrote: This one is awesome!
[youtube]http://youtu.be/bCo7CUIqkxo[/youtube] W - O - W !!
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Post subject: Re: Well he sold the B58TC and built a 414... Wow.. Posted: 11 Jul 2015, 09:13 |
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Username Protected wrote: This one is awesome!
[youtube]http://youtu.be/bCo7CUIqkxo[/youtube] W - O - W !!
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That is a textbook perfect approach and landing for St-Bart's. Hard to practice this however and if you don't nail the landing, you are off into the sand at the end.
I've been a passenger twice on landings into St-Bart's, once in a stock C172N and once in a Horton STOL C210N. The C172N surprisingly ate up the whole runway upon landing, so it's heavily technique-defendant in what is the world's most difficult public runway.
-Pascal
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Post subject: Re: Well he sold the B58TC and built a 414... Wow.. Posted: 11 Jul 2015, 09:35 |
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Username Protected wrote: Wrong airplane for St-Barts. Split Flaps are all drag, no lift. That's what it looks like but that's not true. Take another look at Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators split flaps are fairly lift efficient.
Watch how RSTOL flaps work on a Twin Cessna:
http://youtu.be/R4oTgTRrZRg
Theses flaps shave 400 foot from the landing distance of a Cessna 414 and even more off the take-off:
https://www.redskyventures.org/doc/gene ... arison.pdf
I'd like to see how this guy takes off from St-Bart's, my guess is minimum fuel and he's skimming the beach. Zero engine out margin that's for sure.
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Post subject: Re: Well he sold the B58TC and built a 414... Wow.. Posted: 11 Jul 2015, 09:45 |
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Username Protected wrote: Great looking plane. Problem with piston twins is that sooner or later you're gonna get a hankering for a turbine twin. That's just how it is. It's a natural progression. I'll give Christophe 5 years before he's there and then he has to buy all those fancy avionics all over again...  He can upgrade to a King Air B200 with G1000 and winglets. Here is one taking off at St-Barthélemy TFFJ: http://youtu.be/9nbD8hOB1QA-Pascal
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Post subject: Re: Well he sold the B58TC and built a 414... Wow.. Posted: 11 Jul 2015, 10:34 |
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Username Protected wrote: Great looking plane. Problem with piston twins is that sooner or later you're gonna get a hankering for a turbine twin. That's just how it is. It's a natural progression. I'll give Christophe 5 years before he's there and then he has to buy all those fancy avionics all over again... He can upgrade to a King Air B200 with G1000 and winglets. Here is one taking off at St-Barthélemy TFFJ: http://youtu.be/9nbD8hOB1QA-Pascal
Or, a TBM.
He is French after all.....
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Post subject: Re: Well he sold the B58TC and built a 414... Wow.. Posted: 11 Jul 2015, 11:27 |
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In an MU2? In my sleep. In a 414? Uh-uh. Nope. That guy's got better chops (and bigger balls) than me, lol. That was one hell of an approach.
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