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 Post subject: Re: Anybody else get sick of liars and POS when selling?
PostPosted: 13 Apr 2022, 08:28 
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 Post subject: Re: Anybody else get sick of liars and POS when selling?
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Don't forget the owner that talks to a broker about selling the airplane. The broker tells the owner that in it's current condition they will be lucky to get $XXXX out of it. The owner then hates brokers and list it for double the brokers price, but it doesn't sell. Eventually, it gets to Charlie's scenario as it never sells....


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 Post subject: Re: Anybody else get sick of liars and POS when selling?
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I’ve found over the last few years that I can look at a BT subject line and without knowing the sender I can fairly accurately estimate their total BT contribution volume (#of posts). Doesn’t get me anywhere, just a curiosity

And FWIW, I can’t personally recall feeling “lied to”, despite seeing a LOT of … inconsistencies… with respect to insurance transactions for one thing. I always look back at myself and think: “Self, HOW did you miss that”.

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Ryan, rather than post on BT, you should have just walked up to the buyer who offended you and slapped the $h!t out of them and then shouted "Keep my plane out your F@#$%* search".

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 Post subject: Re: Anybody else get sick of liars and POS when selling?
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How about these doozies
We are working on a formal offer, for 3 weeks, and it never comes but the price never gets discussed, but the questions don't stop.

The aircraft appraiser is working on a formal offer.

The attorney is working on a formal offer and is sending tomorrow, never comes, but the calls/FaceTime calls don't stop. Nothing like FaceTiming a bunch of old 777 captains. I like it more when its 25-30 girls at 11:30pm on a Friday.

We are waiting on the attorney to finish the partnership agreement.

Its gonna cost me over 3MM to replaced your timed out engines so you need to pay me to take the plane.

One of the guys in our group is 986 years old and we are waiting to see if he can get insurance.

Vref said your plane was worth $1 but I couldn't even find the model and year to enter.

That panel upgrade was maybe $120K.

GTSIO's are a 12 month wait at Ram and cost well over $80MM, but are 2-3 months and $81,350/ea.

Can you owner finance half of it. You're trying to trade up but will you consider trading for a cool butt plug I inherited.

I'm working on my multi so I pretty much want to buy it.

Cancel all your plans Tuesday, I'll be there and I am buying the plane.

Fly me up to 17.5 and lets check the pressurization, and I'll pay for fuel when I buy the plane.

Can we list your plane on ASO, no I already told ya'll to go piss up a rope.

Who did your panel upgrade, I can't their name listed anywhere on the inner webs.

Can you convert this to turbine engines.

Almost forgot my favorite of all, jeez:
The automobile I mean aircraft appraiser says this war in the Ukraine could really mess up the market. Neocon war profiteers in action.

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Well since you don't have a broker, you're saving your self 8% right there. So ya know that's a good thing for you. Then tells me they have a broker, I guess that I am supposed to pay for.


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Ryan, rather than post on BT, you should have just walked up to the buyer who offended you and slapped the $h!t out of them and then shouted "Keep my plane out your F@#$%* search".

:lol: I'm gonna challenge the next maggot to a fisticuff.


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Ryan,

That's pretty damn funny.

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How about these doozies

Most of those can be handled with one of two responses:

  1. That's fine, call me when you're ready to buy. If the plane is still available we can talk then.
  2. No.

The few remaining can be dealt with on a case-by-case basis. I get that it's stupid to have to field all of these pointless contacts, but if you distill the responses down you can save a lot of time.

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One of the best things about encountering a more serious buyer, is to let the other prospects know that you cannot entertain their request for XYZ, because you have someone coming to look at the plane

when they firm up and ask to place a deposit to hold, or get more serious- it's entertaining

but the best is letting all of the ones who messed around and missed out know after the right buyer comes along and buys the plane

On my last sale, we had someone obsessed with the oxygen bottles, and their hydro testing.....the guy who actually bought the plane, didn't even ask about that

till the right one comes...


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How about these doozies
We are working on a formal offer, for 3 weeks, and it never comes but the price never gets discussed, but the questions don't stop.

The aircraft appraiser is working on a formal offer.

The attorney is working on a formal offer and is sending tomorrow, never comes, but the calls/FaceTime calls don't stop. Nothing like FaceTiming a bunch of old 777 captains. I like it more when its 25-30 girls at 11:30pm on a Friday.

We are waiting on the attorney to finish the partnership agreement.

Its gonna cost me over 3MM to replaced your timed out engines so you need to pay me to take the plane.

One of the guys in our group is 986 years old and we are waiting to see if he can get insurance.

Vref said your plane was worth $1 but I couldn't even find the model and year to enter.

That panel upgrade was maybe $120K.

GTSIO's are a 12 month wait at Ram and cost well over $80MM, but are 2-3 months and $81,350/ea.

Can you owner finance half of it. You're trying to trade up but will you consider trading for a cool butt plug I inherited.

I'm working on my multi so I pretty much want to buy it.

Cancel all your plans Tuesday, I'll be there and I am buying the plane.

Fly me up to 17.5 and lets check the pressurization, and I'll pay for fuel when I buy the plane.

Can we list your plane on ASO, no I already told ya'll to go piss up a rope.

Who did your panel upgrade, I can't their name listed anywhere on the inner webs.

Can you convert this to turbine engines.

Almost forgot my favorite of all, jeez:
The automobile I mean aircraft appraiser says this war in the Ukraine could really mess up the market. Neocon war profiteers in action.


Why I generally let a broker handle it. Kind of like selling real estate.

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Fly me up to 17.5 and lets check the pressurization, and I'll pay for fuel when I buy the plane.



As someone who appears to have made the maggot list, I will say that after spending 7 hours round trip that day travelling to see it, we didn't quite get all of the warm and fuzzy feelings you want when buying an airplane for that much money along with the additional investment required to bring the aircraft up to the standards we would like. Particularly the firm stance on not having the airplane looked at by a mechanic anywhere other than your hangar.

And you were handed $250 cash after the 50 min flight to cover the fuel burned.

Posts like these definitely validate the decision to pass.


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As someone who appears to have made the maggot list, I will say that after spending 7 hours round trip that day travelling to see it, we didn't quite get all of the warm and fuzzy feelings you want when buying an airplane for that much money along with the additional investment required to bring the aircraft up to the standards we would like. Particularly the firm stance on not having the airplane looked at by a mechanic anywhere other than your hangar.

And you were handed $250 cash after the 50 min flight to cover the fuel burned.

Posts like these definitely validate the decision to pass.


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