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Post subject: Re: SR-72 Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 11:21 |
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Username Protected wrote: Well, that's the trick; you have to know how the "locals" say it, and once you do your ears will hurt every time someone near you says it ever after. Welcome to my life in the land of "ver-sails" Indiana (and Kentucky), and "My-Lan" (Milan) Indiana. Loouuuuuhhhh-ville "say it like your mouth is full of marbles" Kentucky and Nawww-fuhck "did you just say f---?" Virginia, and A-rab Alabama are a few more goodies. Then there's the U.S. military base, formerly a French Foreign Legion base, in Djibouti called Camp Lemonnier. The proper French pronunciation should be one of the easier ones for most any Anglo, especially since there is an appreciable French/Cajun/Louisianan influence on many U.S. dialects, but I've heard Lemonnier butchered as Lemon-ear, like the citrus fruit and the things on the side of your head, as in "what the $%^* did you just say??" 
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Post subject: Re: SR-72 Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 11:55 |
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[laughing] You'ns can tell who-all's not from around heah by hearing how they pronounce Central Texas city names. Manor, Manchaca, Boerne, Elgin. Doesn't matter if it's Spanish, German, Chech, whatever origin, it will get mangled.
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Post subject: Re: SR-72 Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 12:10 |
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Username Protected wrote: The French speak French, the English speak English and we ‘Markins speak ‘Markin. I don’t see the problem. Since I am responsible for the thread drift, supersonic speeds are expressed as a Mach number based on someone’s last name which was most certainly not Mack. The pronunciation of proper names shouldn’t change... except for Fay-bee-an!
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Post subject: Re: SR-72 Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 12:18 |
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Username Protected wrote: It really is true. And Brits aren't allowed to use French words unless they pronounce them with a completely atrocious accent! Don't get me started...And Americans aren't really better! Try and say "entrepreneur" without making me cringe...Or my first name! But we get some revenge by refusing to speak English with anything but a French accent. As to alumin ium, why don't we just call it alumium, as initially intended  Even some Americans and British who know how to pronounce French correctly may avoid doing so in order not to seem pretentious or, worse yet, have their Americaness or Britishness called into question.
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Post subject: Re: SR-72 Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 12:22 |
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I found the most difficult thing about flying international was understanding communications because of local accents, with most common comments made between the captain and FO being "what'd he say?" No offense, but the most difficult; French female controllers, and sometimes Brits with a heavy cockney accent. We were trying to get our clearance at Heathrow from a female controller, and we just couldn't understand the name of the SID she was pronouncing. After asking about 3 times she started yelling at us which made her accent even worse until I had to ask for her supervisor; bingo, first try. :-) On the other hand, flying into places like UAE or Hong Kong you might get a guy with perfect US English. I has to ask one out of curiosity in UAE, and it turns out he was ex PATCO, Hong Kong too. Edit: I might have more trouble with accents than some others, because I couldn't even watch Downton Abbey. 
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Post subject: Re: SR-72 Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 12:22 |
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Username Protected wrote: The French speak French, the English speak English and we ‘Markins speak ‘Markin. I don’t see the problem. Since I am responsible for the thread drift, supersonic speeds are expressed as a Mach number based on someone’s last name which was most certainly not Mack. The pronunciation of proper names shouldn’t change... except for Fay-bee-an!
Just to clarify, how do you want to pronounce Mach? Should be: /mɑːx/, as in "Loch".
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Post subject: Re: SR-72 Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 13:07 |
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Username Protected wrote: [laughing] You'ns can tell who-all's not from around heah by hearing how they pronounce Central Texas city names. Manor, Manchaca, Boerne, Elgin. Doesn't matter if it's Spanish, German, Chech, whatever origin, it will get mangled. And Mexia
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Post subject: Re: SR-72 Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 13:14 |
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Username Protected wrote: [laughing] You'ns can tell who-all's not from around heah by hearing how they pronounce Central Texas city names. Manor, Manchaca, Boerne, Elgin. Doesn't matter if it's Spanish, German, Chech, whatever origin, it will get mangled. And Mexia Pennsylvania town names are like that, too. Notably Lebanon, Lancaster and Wilkes-Barre
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Post subject: Re: SR-72 Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 13:21 |
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Username Protected wrote: I found the most difficult thing about flying international was understanding communications because of local accents, with most common comments made between the captain and FO being "what'd he say?" No offense, but the most difficult; French female controllers, and sometimes Brits with a heavy cockney accent. We were trying to get our clearance at Heathrow from a female controller, and we just couldn't understand the name of the SID she was pronouncing. After asking about 3 times she started yelling at us which made her accent even worse until I had to ask for her supervisor; bingo, first try. :-) On the other hand, flying into places like UAE or Hong Kong you might get a guy with perfect US English. I has to ask one out of curiosity in UAE, and it turns out he was ex PATCO, Hong Kong too. Edit: I might have more trouble with accents than some others, because I couldn't even watch Downton Abbey.  Another "truism" about foreign airports seems to be that the closer you get to the airport the worse the english pronunciation becomes. The first local controller, fair to good; second local controller, excellent; tower, what did he/she say?; ground, F me, I got no idea what they said; ramp, good. Not always, but often enough.
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Post subject: Re: SR-72 Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 15:41 |
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Username Protected wrote: Just curious, is this a language/pronunciation thread or one about a high speed aircraft?
Dan That depends on whether or not you consider Mack 6 to be a high speed. 
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Post subject: Re: SR-72 Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 17:25 |
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I've driven a 15 speed Mack, is that fast?
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Post subject: Re: SR-72 Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 17:36 |
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Username Protected wrote: Pennsylvania town names are like that, too. Notably Lebanon, Lancaster and Wilkes-Barre Lancaster, PA is pronounced that way to differentiate it from Lancaster, DE. 
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