BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 11 Jan 2017, 16:12

Heres the 400LS video I like the best:
[youtube]https://youtu.be/kFPcrWVFlcY[/youtube]

Username Protected · **Posted:** 11 Jan 2017, 16:56

Username Protected wrote:

Not to discourage anyone from considering a Cheyenne, but the NTSB has issued an urgent safety recommendation based on the crash of a PA-31T medical flight in California on July 29, 2016.

https://disciplesofflight.com/ntsb-faa- ... mendation/

This very recent recommendation is good to know about. Thanks.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 11 Jan 2017, 16:58

I just bought a -III on Dec. 31. It has based here for several years and we have a -I, -IIXL, -III, and -IIIA based here (and next door at CCY). So our FBO has lots of experience and they have all been very robust airplanes...

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Username Protected · **Posted:** 11 Jan 2017, 18:02

Only parts issue I am aware of is certain parts for the SAS in the II. In twelve years of ownership of 400LS, parts have not been an issue, but haven't needed much outside of time limited items.

Have local firm considering a IIXL, so spoke with folks who do our inspections and they said the Cheyenne line was robust and they seldom see one between normal inspections. in the twelve years we've had ours, only remember maybe 3 unscheduled trips back.

Love the 400, simple to operate and easy to fly.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 11 Jan 2017, 18:23

Username Protected wrote:

Only parts issue I am aware of is certain parts for the SAS in the II. In twelve years of ownership of 400LS, parts have not been an issue, but haven't needed much outside of time limited items.

Have local firm considering a IIXL, so spoke with folks who do our inspections and they said the Cheyenne line was robust and they seldom see one between normal inspections. in the twelve years we've had ours, only remember maybe 3 unscheduled trips back.

Love the 400, simple to operate and easy to fly.

I got to ride in Nathan's 400 recently, and it is stupid fast!!!! Crazy!!!!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Jan 2017, 11:02

Alot of the Cheyenne parts are the same as the Navajo parts.
The biggest parts issues I had with them are:
Oil cooler scoop metal cracking if Ram Air recovery is installed. There is no more replacement metal available for this. When they crack they will have to be removed and repaired.
The small window behind the cockpit on the IIXL is almost impossible to find if it needs replaced.
Anything in the IIXL air cycle machine is EXPENSIVE to replace if you can find a replacement part for it. There are still a couple of shops that will repair the Air cycle machine parts but those parts are getting up there as far as wear.
The landing gear hydraulic packs are pretty trouble free but can be a bear to troubleshoot when something goes wrong.
They don't have a lot of pressurization problems if the system is maintained properly. The biggest thing to watch for is that the strato seals on the floor boards are kept in good condition and are installed after every floorboard R&R during inspections.

The good:
The IIXL is a rocket especially if the -135As and ram air recovery is installed.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Jan 2017, 13:02

Username Protected wrote:

Alot of the Cheyenne parts are the same as the Navajo parts.
The biggest parts issues I had with them are:
Oil cooler scoop metal cracking if Ram Air recovery is installed. There is no more replacement metal available for this. When they crack they will have to be removed and repaired.
The small window behind the cockpit on the IIXL is almost impossible to find if it needs replaced.
Anything in the IIXL air cycle machine is EXPENSIVE to replace if you can find a replacement part for it. There are still a couple of shops that will repair the Air cycle machine parts but those parts are getting up there as far as wear.
The landing gear hydraulic packs are pretty trouble free but can be a bear to troubleshoot when something goes wrong.
They don't have a lot of pressurization problems if the system is maintained properly. The biggest thing to watch for is that the strato seals on the floor boards are kept in good condition and are installed after every floorboard R&R during inspections.

The good:
The IIXL is a rocket especially if the -135As and ram air recovery is installed.

I appreciate the detailed comment, Bill.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Jan 2017, 13:05

Always had a soft spot for the 400LS. That thing is a beast! Insanely fast, extreme range, can climb as high as jets. :thumbup:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Jan 2017, 13:11

MT Prop Worlds First 7 blade Prop / "unducted prop fan" tested on a Cheyenne: * looks pretty sweet!

http://www.avbuyer.com/articles/ga-buye ... propeller/

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Jan 2017, 17:14

I don't know why 7 blades is better, but my gut tells me I need at least that many.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Jan 2017, 18:01

There's a direct correlation between sexiness and the amount of blades. More is sexier.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Jan 2017, 18:03

Username Protected wrote:

I just bought a -III on Dec. 31. It has based here for several years and we have a -I, -IIXL, -III, and -IIIA based here (and next door at CCY). So our FBO has lots of experience and they have all been very robust airplanes...

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Shazaaam!! :clap:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Jan 2017, 18:13

Username Protected wrote:

There's a direct correlation between sexiness and the amount of blades. More is sexier.

Yep, and $$$$$

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 Jan 2017, 21:31

Username Protected wrote:

There are several Cheyennes (I, IA, & II) that fit into my budget for entry into the turbine game, but I've heard hints that support and parts are becoming difficult. Anyone with experience want to chime in?

Stewart

I made the jump from an A-36TN to a 1981 Cheyenne I about 7 months ago. I'm about 70 hours in at this point and would do it all over again. it fits me, my mission and my family.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 Jan 2017, 21:57

Username Protected wrote:

There are several Cheyennes (I, IA, & II) that fit into my budget for entry into the turbine game, but I've heard hints that support and parts are becoming difficult. Anyone with experience want to chime in?

Stewart

I made the jump from an A-36TN to a 1981 Cheyenne I about 7 months ago. I'm about 70 hours in at this point and would do it all over again. it fits me, my mission and my family.