It depends on what you want to talk about. How about the above flight: KSZT to KMCO. 8 passengers (including pilot), bags, 1000 lbs. fuel at landing, in 4:47? With a comfortable 6,600 cabin at FL450.

Quality of life. Other than the money, you will not regret it. You need a jet!

Ed knows his stuff on the Phenom Michael. He sent me a long email a while back with all the comparisons. He did his homework.

Of course, I still made Atlanta to Aspen last week non stop with 100 knots headwinds most of the way. It took 5:45 and suuuuuuucked but I still made it without stopping.

It depends on what you want to talk about. How about the above flight: KSZT to KMCO. 8 passengers (including pilot), bags, 1000 lbs. fuel at landing, in 4:47? With a comfortable 6,600 cabin at FL450.

As Alex mentioned CJ,CJ1 etc now. I got this yesterday on the CJ3.


We are on track for CJ3/CJ3+ STC by October and our hope is that the CJ2/CJ2+ will be shortly after (perhaps by end of the year).

Andrew

[quote="Ed Kuchar"It depends on what you want to talk about. How about the above flight: KSZT to KMCO. 8 passengers (including pilot), bags, 1000 lbs. fuel at landing, in 4:47? With a comfortable 6,600 cabin at FL450.[/quote]

Ok Ed, you win. Impressive.

Andrew

Seems to me, if you're smart and budget conscious, you buy an older Citation Jet and add this Tamarack system. Benefits: Same FJ44 engines as the newer planes (just not Fadec), old panel you can upgrade how you want and not stuck with some ancient CRT EFIS system. Winglets will add 300nm range.

All of a sudden you have a $1M glass panel jet that can do 1800nm and beat a standard issue M2.

Interesting.

Ed,
I've heard that Cessna's service network is one area they beat the Phenom. I know of an Phenom 300 owner that has had a 2 AOG events within their 3-4 years of ownership that resulted in canceled flights, but in all fairness with regards to maintenance, they only take it in for annual inspections and the inspections thus far have been less than our PC12s. What has been your maintenance/reliably experience?

Does your bird have the G1000 or 3000? Any comments on differences there? I know just because you have a g3000 in one aircraft type, you don't necessarily get the same features in another.

Thanks,
Brent

It's on an experimental certificate for certification purposes. Nothing illegal here.

I'm pretty sure increasing MTOW isn't as straightforward as just doing flight testing with winglets. There would have to be structural analysis and testing on the gear, wing etc. to accomplish this. Adding the MZFW is certainly doable but I wouldn't expect to see an increase in MTOW.

I'm pretty sure increasing MTOW isn't as straightforward as just doing flight testing with winglets. There would have to be structural analysis and testing on the gear, wing etc. to accomplish this.

Have they provided more standard type of data? One trip on a route that easily has up to 100 knot tailwinds is great for marketing but I'd be curious to see numbers that compare to book.

Aaaarrrrggghhhh, don't tell me that.

How does the operating cost compare to the pc12 on a per mile basis......... The run I would like to make is KFxe to Ktex non stop, in the winter

What's the trip time and reserves on that run?

You could do FXE to TEX in the Pilatus today in the teens in 7 hours with 1 stop.

Ed,
I've heard that Cessna's service network is one area they beat the Phenom. I know of an Phenom 300 owner that has had a 2 AOG events within their 3-4 years of ownership that resulted in canceled flights, but in all fairness with regards to maintenance, they only take it in for annual inspections and the inspections thus far have been less than our PC12s. What has been your maintenance/reliably experience?

Does your bird have the G1000 or 3000? Any comments on differences there? I know just because you have a g3000 in one aircraft type, you don't necessarily get the same features in another.

Thanks,
Brent