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Post subject: Re: TBM 850, Phenom 100 or Cessna Mustang?  Posted: 24 Jan 2017, 21:22 |
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Username Protected wrote: Great deals out there on two pilot swept wing jets... That's a great way to put it. The deals on legacy jets in general are still unbelievable. Some nice stuff between $500K - $1MM.
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Post subject: Re: TBM 850, Phenom 100 or Cessna Mustang? Posted: 24 Jan 2017, 21:32 |
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Username Protected wrote: Great deals out there on two pilot swept wing jets... That's a great way to put it. The deals on legacy jets in general are still unbelievable. Some nice stuff between $500K - $1MM.
Mind sharing what looks good to you?
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Post subject: Re: TBM 850, Phenom 100 or Cessna Mustang? Posted: 24 Jan 2017, 21:33 |
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Username Protected wrote: Great deals out there on two pilot swept wing jets. Wish I could get the dog typed. And conjur up half a million. It would be interesting to look at the all in operating costs of those two pilot jets with a full time pilot compared to a more expensive single pilot jet. The cost of the pilot's salary and load might not be that significant in comparison. Frankly, it's more fun to fly with someone else in the right seat anyway.
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Post subject: Re: TBM 850, Phenom 100 or Cessna Mustang? Posted: 24 Jan 2017, 21:41 |
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Username Protected wrote: The deals on legacy jets in general are still unbelievable. Some nice stuff between $500K - $1MM. Is that the purchase price or the yearly operating budget? Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: TBM 850, Phenom 100 or Cessna Mustang? Posted: 24 Jan 2017, 21:42 |
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Username Protected wrote: Great deals out there on two pilot swept wing jets. Wish I could get the dog typed. And conjur up half a million. It would be interesting to look at the all in operating costs of those two pilot jets with a full time pilot compared to a more expensive single pilot jet. The cost of the pilot's salary and load might not be that significant in comparison. Frankly, it's more fun to fly with someone else in the right seat anyway.
Yea, that's why it would only work if I could get my dog type rated.
And even then it wouldn't..
We know one thing, if these jets are actually being used the economics put them in the boneyard pretty fast. It's the owners that have an emotional attachment, and/or don't fly them a whole lot that keep them going I reckon. Plus the odd nut individual who gets a wild hair and throws caution to the wind because he can pick up a sabreliner 60 for $175,000. ....and gets run out of it in a year and 35 hours and $100k later 
It's a sickness, sadly I'm one of those unique kinds of idiots 
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Post subject: Re: TBM 850, Phenom 100 or Cessna Mustang? Posted: 24 Jan 2017, 21:50 |
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Username Protected wrote: Mind sharing what looks good to you? Sure. You can buy a nice Falcon 10 around $500K. Amazing performer. Others would be Beechjet, Citation III, Lear 31 for less than $1MM. For single pilot, the Citation ISP is in the $500K +/- range. Not a bad way to get typed and log some time.
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Post subject: Re: TBM 850, Phenom 100 or Cessna Mustang? Posted: 24 Jan 2017, 23:09 |
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Username Protected wrote: Citation ISP is in the $500K +/- range. Not a bad way to get typed and log some time. Ah, the dreaded "time builder jet". Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: TBM 850, Phenom 100 or Cessna Mustang? Posted: 25 Jan 2017, 01:31 |
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Username Protected wrote: Say what you want, but a 1SP can be a good truck to get road time in. Especially if you hang a pair of FJ44s on it... Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: TBM 850, Phenom 100 or Cessna Mustang? Posted: 25 Jan 2017, 01:42 |
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Username Protected wrote: Say what you want, but a 1SP can be a good truck to get road time in. Especially if you hang a pair of FJ44s on it... Mike C.
And at the same time chant: " I love monopolies, I love monopolies" as you hand over the service contract, and your wallet, to the only shop in the world that can overhaul them...
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Post subject: Re: TBM 850, Phenom 100 or Cessna Mustang? Posted: 25 Jan 2017, 01:54 |
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Username Protected wrote: Stayed in FL today rather than fight Tstorms, severe Turbulence, tornadoes and ice in GA on my route out of FL to IN. Again I say...it takes months to learn how to fly and years to learn when not to fly. Well done.
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Post subject: Re: TBM 850, Phenom 100 or Cessna Mustang? Posted: 25 Jan 2017, 01:56 |
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Username Protected wrote: Great deals out there on two pilot swept wing jets. Wish I could get the dog typed. And conjur up half a million. It would be interesting to look at the all in operating costs of those two pilot jets with a full time pilot compared to a more expensive single pilot jet. The cost of the pilot's salary and load might not be that significant in comparison. Frankly, it's more fun to fly with someone else in the right seat anyway.
Depends on how good looking she is 
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