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Post subject: Re: XB-1 ... BOOM  Posted: 09 Oct 2020, 13:06 |
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That is very cool. Can't wait to see it fly.
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Post subject: Re: XB-1 ... BOOM Posted: 09 Oct 2020, 15:00 |
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That's fun. I wish them success, it would be very cool to have a new SST. ... on the other hand there's this: Exosonic To Develop America’s New Supersonic Air Force OneWould somebody like to tell me why the F* we need a supersonic AF1? "[The Presidential and Executive Airlift Directorate’s] flagship aircraft, modified Boeing 747-200Bs that frequently fly as Air Force One, are due to be replaced by brand new modified Boeing 747-8s. VIPs will have to make do with years of flying at conventional speeds for the foreseeable future." Oh the horror. Poor babies.  They ought to be flying in a 737 MAX.
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Post subject: Re: XB-1 ... BOOM Posted: 10 Oct 2020, 20:56 |
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Username Protected wrote: https://simpleflying.com/boom-xb-1-rollout/ Hm, what will the eco-terrorists say to a manned Cruise Missile?
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Post subject: Re: XB-1 ... BOOM Posted: 10 Oct 2020, 21:53 |
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Username Protected wrote: https://simpleflying.com/boom-xb-1-rollout/ Hm, what will the eco-terrorists say to a manned Cruise Missile?
Nothing - they've pledged to be carbon neutral. Would love to see how they do that.
I'd also love to see the financial case being made to investors (unless the case is only feel good stuff) when their proclaimed goal is to make trans-earth travel cost the equivalent of $100 per person.
Plus, maybe I'm just grouchy, but that marketing piece made me semi-nauseous with Scholl pacing left to right along with the rather unnatural hand gestures, seemingly coming after he had finished his sentence.
To be sure, he's done an impressive job gathering a notable, highly-qualified team and raising a bunch of money, tip o' the hat for that and the technology they've brought together. I just really doubt the economics will be there in the end.
I remember shortly after exiting grad school and attending a high level aerospace industry gathering on the technology for the next SST (in 1987-1988) one blasphemer showed that for the dollars spent building an SST a greater reduction in door to door time could be had by improving mass-transit to and from the airport to all of the major hubs from which such flights would originate.
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Post subject: Re: XB-1 ... BOOM Posted: 12 Oct 2020, 22:54 |
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Username Protected wrote: I remember shortly after exiting grad school and attending a high level aerospace industry gathering on the technology for the next SST (in 1987-1988) one blasphemer showed that for the dollars spent building an SST a greater reduction in door to door time could be had by improving mass-transit to and from the airport to all of the major hubs from which such flights would originate.  That’s priceless. It’s an airplane. You can’t justify it’s existence financially, it isn’t possible.
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Post subject: Re: XB-1 ... BOOM Posted: 13 Oct 2020, 00:16 |
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Username Protected wrote: I remember shortly after exiting grad school and attending a high level aerospace industry gathering on the technology for the next SST (in 1987-1988) one blasphemer showed that for the dollars spent building an SST a greater reduction in door to door time could be had by improving mass-transit to and from the airport to all of the major hubs from which such flights would originate. Except that the cost estimates of transit projects are even less realistic than in aviation.
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Post subject: Re: XB-1 ... BOOM Posted: 13 Oct 2020, 12:54 |
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Mach .92 in the 74 isn't good enough?
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Post subject: Re: XB-1 ... BOOM Posted: 13 Oct 2020, 14:00 |
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Username Protected wrote: I remember shortly after exiting grad school and attending a high level aerospace industry gathering on the technology for the next SST (in 1987-1988) one blasphemer showed that for the dollars spent building an SST a greater reduction in door to door time could be had by improving mass-transit to and from the airport to all of the major hubs from which such flights would originate.
Except these things are built for the peasants. 
Mass transit? People flying these will take their helicopter to the airport, or maybe the VTOLs will be working by then and they'll take that.
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Post subject: Re: XB-1 ... BOOM Posted: 13 Oct 2020, 18:53 |
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Would somebody like to tell me why the F* we need a supersonic AF1?
Typical procurement system nonsense (Alternately, the Boom corporation had a friend in Congress). A relatively small, supersonic AF1 makes zero sense. How are you gonna escort it? How are you gonna use it as a mobile command post? How are you gonna put all of the toadies in a little jet? A complete waste of money...
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Post subject: Re: XB-1 ... BOOM Posted: 13 Oct 2020, 18:58 |
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Username Protected wrote: Mach .92 in the 74 isn't good enough? Why so slow when tested the original one to .99? 
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Post subject: Re: XB-1 ... BOOM Posted: 17 Oct 2020, 17:58 |
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Username Protected wrote: Would somebody like to tell me why the F* we need a supersonic AF1? Core market - govs and mil. Ain‘t no supersonic allowed for privates.
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Post subject: Re: XB-1 ... BOOM Posted: 17 Oct 2020, 22:00 |
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Username Protected wrote: Core market - govs and mil. Ain‘t no supersonic allowed for privates. Nothing specific about private supersonic. It’s all about the boom. If you don’t boom at the surface I would think there wouldn’t be a problem with getting approved. The question I was asking is why we the people who pay for the thing should be saddled with the expense of a SST when it is not at all necessary. The 747 is much more than is needed in my opinion, but maybe that’s just me.
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Post subject: Re: XB-1 ... BOOM Posted: 17 Oct 2020, 22:50 |
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[youtube]http://youtu.be/PtYLipxzVN8[/youtube] Username Protected wrote: That's fun. I wish them success, it would be very cool to have a new SST. ... on the other hand there's this: Exosonic To Develop America’s New Supersonic Air Force OneWould somebody like to tell me why the F* we need a supersonic AF1? "[The Presidential and Executive Airlift Directorate’s] flagship aircraft, modified Boeing 747-200Bs that frequently fly as Air Force One, are due to be replaced by brand new modified Boeing 747-8s. VIPs will have to make do with years of flying at conventional speeds for the foreseeable future." Oh the horror. Poor babies. They ought to be flying in a 737 MAX.
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