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Post subject: Re: R44 helicopter ride Posted: 02 May 2019, 17:41 |
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Joined: 07/16/17 Posts: 871 Post Likes: +946 Location: KYIP Willow Run (Detroit MI)
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I got about 30 minutes of dual in Bell 47 last week. It was a lot of fun. My Dad and I each flew it, first time in over 30 years since he had flown one. For me too, but my time then didn’t really count much since I was only 10. I told my wife we need to buy a helicopter now, and she didn’t even hesitate before shooting that idea down. 
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Post subject: Re: R44 helicopter ride Posted: 05 May 2019, 00:46 |
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Robinsons do not have automatic collectives. They have governors and correlators that control the throttle once the throttle is rolled into full or flying position. The ships with autopilots when engaged control the cyclic only. The 44 is an awesome machine!
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Post subject: Re: R44 helicopter ride Posted: 06 May 2019, 11:46 |
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Joined: 11/25/16 Posts: 1982 Post Likes: +1589 Location: KSBD
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Username Protected wrote: My wife told me if I go for a helicopter rating I will be giving rides to my 2nd wife  So that's win/win?
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Post subject: Re: R44 helicopter ride Posted: 06 May 2019, 15:55 |
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Joined: 03/24/19 Posts: 1501 Post Likes: +2134 Location: Ontario, Canada
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I was spoiled. As a young avionics tech I cut my teeth on commercial helicopters. My employer was the largest non-military operator of (then) Hughes 500 helicopters. The fleet was mostly D-models with a couple of C's that were being phased out. Frequently I was required to do "radio check flights"... which meant "we'll test the radios and the avionics tech will get some stick time". I got to the point where I could hover in a tailwind, so had reasonable proficiency. Then we got more Bells and some AS350 Astars. Never learned to like the hydraulic boost of the Bells (206B, L) until I flew the mediums, starting with a 204 then the 212's where hydraulic boost was pretty much a life saver. On my personal rating scale of flying fun, the top 3 forms of flight are gliding, floatplane flying and flying the 500. With unlimited money I'd have an MD530F sitting in the hangar...  As it stands, I'm happy to have my Glasair Sportsman and fond memories of my "fling wing" days.
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Post subject: Re: R44 helicopter ride Posted: 06 May 2019, 16:04 |
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Joined: 08/24/13 Posts: 10235 Post Likes: +4873 Company: Aviation Tools / CCX Location: KSMQ New Jersey
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Username Protected wrote: I was spoiled. As a young avionics tech I cut my teeth on commercial helicopters. My employer was the largest non-military operator of (then) Hughes 500 helicopters. The fleet was mostly D-models with a couple of C's that were being phased out.
Frequently I was required to do "radio check flights"... which meant "we'll test the radios and the avionics tech will get some stick time". I got to the point where I could hover in a tailwind, so had reasonable proficiency.
Same experience here. As an avionics tech I got a lot of test flights, and usually got a chance to do some flying. I just wish I had gotten my license back then, as more of it would have stuck with me.
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Post subject: Re: R44 helicopter ride Posted: 08 May 2019, 16:14 |
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Joined: 03/19/12 Posts: 4044 Post Likes: +1793 Location: Belton, TX (KTPL)
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Username Protected wrote: Then we got more Bells and some AS350 Astars. Never learned to like the hydraulic boost of the Bells (206B, L) until I flew the mediums, starting with a 204 then the 212's where hydraulic boost was pretty much a life saver.
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In any model of 206 you either have hydraulics or you do not. If the hydraulics are off the controls are very sloppy and very hard to move. For 80% of pilots a slow run on landing 8-10 mph is the only type of landing as hovering is too hard. Without that "boost" you call it, the collective takes 80-90 lbs of pull to get full travel. Hydraulic controls are hydraulic controls. It comes down to rotor design that determines how sensitive those controls are. The 206 rotor head is much more sensitive to control than the 204-212, both underslung semi-rigid, but totally different. The Huey is very very forgiving.
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