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Post subject: Jet stream surfing Posted: 24 Oct 2017, 10:38 |
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Joined: 03/03/11 Posts: 2073 Post Likes: +2175
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When I bought the mu2, I knew one of my main flights, which is 1300nm, would work east bound most of the time but I wasn’t sure if I would ever be able to do the leg west bound non stop.
Yesterday, thanks to crazy jet stream winds, I was able to do it. Very fun flight with lots of weather and constant fuel calculating. I landed right at dusk with 1.1 hours of fuel remaining.
I tried a bunch of fuel flow settings, there is about a 8% difference between long range fuel burn in my plane and go fast mode. I ran somewhere in the middle for most of the flight, burning about 420lbs/hr and truing out around 290kts. It got colder as the flight went on which hurt my efficiency.
I had a fuel stop planned but when I realized I could make it home I changed the destination and kept rolling.
I used groundspeed to judge when I hit the big turn in jet stream wind. It worked perfectly and I kept my headwinds neutral to light despite 100 knot winds. Crossing all sorts of weather and while every other plane complained about the ride, mine was fine at fl280 outside of some light bumps crossing some jet stream boundaries.
I continue to be impressed by the mu2. There are not many turboprops that will do 1350nm into the wind in 5 hours flat. Had I wanted to go PC12 speeds, I could have stretched it a little further too.
In this case, by not stopping I avoided a fuel stop in weather and a night landing.
Even if the plane could go further non stop I think I would stop. I was ready to stretch after 5 hours. I can’t believe I used to do 8.5 flights in the Malibu. My tolerance for sitting decreases every year.
The XM wind forecast was dead nuts accurate the entire way. Such a great tool on days like this. I hope someday the gtn will use this data to predict your flight time a la foreflight.
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Post subject: Re: Jet stream surfing Posted: 24 Oct 2017, 18:03 |
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Joined: 11/08/12 Posts: 7730 Post Likes: +5114 Location: Live in San Carlos, CA - based Hayward, CA KHWD
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Nice Anthony! I had a similar flight (actually two) yesterday evening. Departed KBED at about 5:30pm (EDT) last night, ultimate destination KSQL. Flight planned two stops, but realized I could keep going a ways and tried it. Made it across in one stop (KGRI). However, there was a time after the stop across Nebraska and Colorado where my GPS was reporting crosswind out of the north at 147 kts. Even as a mostly crosswind, my groundspeed took about a 75-80 kt hit. But a little lower was a little better, and it improved the further I went west. I too am periodically pleasantly surprised at the capability of the MU2. -Jon C. Attachment: Clipboard01.png Attachment: Clipboard02.png
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Post subject: Re: Jet stream surfing Posted: 24 Oct 2017, 22:00 |
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Joined: 11/08/12 Posts: 7730 Post Likes: +5114 Location: Live in San Carlos, CA - based Hayward, CA KHWD
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Username Protected wrote: Wow. We were in the air at about the same time John. That was a long day for you. Were you pulled back or in go fast mode? Yes, it was a bit of a long day. I tend not to pull back much. I find it doesn't make that big a difference. I typically run at about 97-98% RPM and close to max EGT, usually minus 5-10 deg for a small cushion. I'm impressed you got 5 hours of endurance. I get more like 4.5, though admittedly this time that included a couple hours at FL240 instead of 280 which makes a minor difference.
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