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 Post subject: Cessna 150 normal cht?
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A friend just bought a 150 that has a JPI. Several cylinders are commonly running in the 400 to 420 range (OAT 90+)

I'm debating between this 1) is a problem or 2) might be normal for a 150 and no one knows it because they are never instrumented. Comments?


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A friend just bought a 150 that has a JPI. Several cylinders are commonly running in the 400 to 420 range (OAT 90+)

I'm debating between this 1) is a problem or 2) might be normal for a 150 and no one knows it because they are never instrumented. Comments?


That's too high. You can "jet" the carb by drilling them out with the numbered drill bit drill 1 or 2 sizes bigger than what you have. I think you'll find they drop to 330 or so. May need to lean a hair on take-off to achieve max power. This advice is for experimentals as I have no idea what is legal for a certified O-200; perhaps they sell certified carb jets. This is based off of 700 hours behind an O-200 that was instrumented.


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 Post subject: Re: Cessna 150 normal cht?
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My thought was inadequate fuel flow too


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First thing I'd check is the mixture cable adjustment. Is it going all the way to the full rich position? :scratch:

What's the EGT numbers?

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I have been running an engine analyzer in my C150 for about 10 years. If I take off and climb at best rate to a cruise altitude of over a few thousand feet my CHTs will go above my self imposed limit of 370 DF.

If I enrich the mixture to get the temps down the climb is anemic. C150s do not have a 100 hp engine it is more like a 90 hp engine that is just too low for what is wanted. (Continental rates the 0-200 at 100 hp at 2850 rpm but by the engine is red lined at 2750 when installed in a C150.)

The answer is as soon as I am at 1,000 ft AGL I climb at 80 MPH it is slow but I get there. By reducing CHT the number of times I need to ream the valve guides is greatly reduced. A stuck valve will really ruin your day.

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A friend just bought a 150 that has a JPI. Several cylinders are commonly running in the 400 to 420 range (OAT 90+)

I'm debating between this 1) is a problem or 2) might be normal for a 150 and no one knows it because they are never instrumented. Comments?


What type CHT probes are installed? What phase of flight? What is the EGT?


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Flying that Tiger last week in Arizona Summer temps I was getting 430-450 on a few cylinders. I could richen it up and drop them but blowing through a lot of gas.

Leaning the old fashioned way till it got rough and then richen in a bit resulted in some toasty temps. I think in the past nobody knew (and they ran forever).

I kinda liked the old way of obliviousness.

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What type CHT probes are installed? What phase of flight? What is the EGT?


Full rich, full throttle cruise (new cylinder breakin)


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Charles,
Are all cylinders new and within the break-in period?

Sparkplug gasket type CHT probes (as I had on my last 150) tend to read a bit hotter (30*F maybe?) than a bayonet probe on the same cylinder. A new cylinder will typically run slightly hotter durring the break-in.


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Just one new jug. I think #4


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If I ran my 150 at full throttle in level cruise it would turn WAY above redline at lower altitudes, like 3000 ft msl.


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