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Post subject: New member Posted: 22 May 2011, 09:38 |
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Joined: 05/20/11 Posts: 9 Company: Fortress Investment Location: Kentfield, California
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I am a new member to BeechTalk. I own a '91 F33A. In June my family is moving from NYC to Kentfield, California. I will be flying my F33A out, and it will be my first trip across the country. I appreciate any tips, especially on take-out off and landings into high density altitude airports. My flight plan is basically V6 most of the way, and will try and make Cheyenne Wyoming or Scottsbluff Neb on the first day. Day 2 - fuel stops in Ogden UT and Sacramento Ca. For the near future I will be flying out of Gnoss Field in Marin County.
Andy
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Post subject: Re: New member Posted: 22 May 2011, 09:59 |
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Joined: 02/13/10 Posts: 20243 Post Likes: +25001 Location: Castle Rock, Colorado
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Andy, Welcome to BeechTalk. I've flown from Florida to California a couple times; it's great fun, but requires lots of planning. If you haven't flown over the really big rocks in the past, special attention is needed. Oh, and it's pretty much required that you now post some pictures of your F33A... 
_________________ Arlen Get your motor runnin' Head out on the highway - Mars Bonfire
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Post subject: Re: New member Posted: 22 May 2011, 10:32 |
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Joined: 09/27/09 Posts: 3155 Post Likes: +229 Company: Coats & Evans, PC Location: The Woodlands, TX (KDWH)
Aircraft: 1989 Bonanza F33A
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Andy, Welcome to BT! All our F33A trips to California have been over the southern route, but I have flown to Wyoming in our Cessna. My suggestion would be to spend some time along the way. You are going to be traversing some truly spectacular real estate. As a baby pilot with a year old PPL and a 172 I had owned for a few months, I received my best lesson in density altitude departing Cheyenne on a warm afternoon. We climbed to about 50' feet over the big long runway and holding best climb speed, the VSI settled to 0 fpm  We eventually coaxed the plane up to 11,500 for the flight up to Casper, but those first few minutes were really interesting. Drew
_________________ Drew Coats 1989 F33A N601BT KDWH http://www.TexasAviationLaw.com
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Post subject: Re: New member Posted: 22 May 2011, 10:43 |
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Joined: 08/31/09 Posts: 4380 Post Likes: +603 Company: Telematic Systems, Inc. Location: Ft. Myers, FL (KFMY)
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Welcome aboard Andrew! If this is your first trip across the country and mountains, I would suggest you do it alone. Don't take passengers. You want to carry oxygen. I would recommend 14K as the minimum altitude. Pay particular attention to the winds aloft. Strong winds out of the west will surly get your attention. My suggestion would be to cross the highest terrain during the early morning hours, just as the sun is coming up. That's when you have the greatest chance of getting a good ride across the rocks. 
_________________ Bill Tassic
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Post subject: Re: New member Posted: 22 May 2011, 15:37 |
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Joined: 05/20/11 Posts: 9 Company: Fortress Investment Location: Kentfield, California
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Thanks for the suggestions. I will be flying by myself. My wife and four year daughter will be taking United. I read the aopa article on mountain flying and I found it helpful. I still need to figure out the appropriate mixture settings. I going to the airport tonight and grab the POH.
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Post subject: Re: New member Posted: 22 May 2011, 15:46 |
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Joined: 01/18/11 Posts: 7664 Post Likes: +3696 Location: Lakeland , Ga
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unless you just wanna see a lot of mountains, i would head to Texas and then cross around Palmdale then up the central valley to Marin County. It will be one hell of a lot smoother and you won't have to go above 10,000. The way you are heading is many miles of bumps. An you won't be making much groundspeed at 14k. but i am a wimp and have plenty of time
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Post subject: Re: New member Posted: 22 May 2011, 15:51 |
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Joined: 01/18/11 Posts: 7664 Post Likes: +3696 Location: Lakeland , Ga
Aircraft: H35, T-41B, Aircoupe
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oh and i meant to say welcome aboard BT, stay in touch.
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Post subject: Re: New member Posted: 22 May 2011, 18:28 |
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Joined: 06/14/09 Posts: 745 Post Likes: +9 Location: Chicago, IL (KGYY), GA, KVLD, FL, KOPF
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Welcome to BT Andrew. I also owned an F-33 for many years and it is still my favorite. NYC to Wyoming seems pretty challenging for the first leg but it's your call. The mountains can get a bit bumpy especially in the afternoon when you will be getting there. My personal opinion, is to land and rest then tackle the hills very early in the morning. I have done the southern route on several occasion but never the northern. It should be spectacular.
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Post subject: Re: New member Posted: 22 May 2011, 19:19 |
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Joined: 01/18/09 Posts: 449 Post Likes: +8 Company: Air Corriente, LLC Location: Columbia, TN
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Welcome Andrew! Go for you being up for the challenge of bringing your bird cross country. Three thoughts: 1. The scenery in the northern Rockies is spectacular beyond compare. You really do want to see it. But even experienced mountain pilots are lost there with saddening frequency. 2. The southern route is maybe not as breath taking, but still amazing. And Rocky is right, there are choices of routes that do not demand the very best of mountain flying experience. Two ideas would be Pueblo CO through to Farmington, NM or Amarillo, TX to Albuquerque. 3. Once you'll settled into your new CA digs, there are many good mountain flying instructors. Checking out the Sierras and Northern Rockies make for great weekend trips. Really, we all just want to see you get there safely, which ever way you go. Pic's or it didn't happen! 
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Post subject: Re: New member Posted: 23 May 2011, 01:58 |
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Joined: 06/25/08 Posts: 5771 Post Likes: +594 Company: Latitude Aviation Location: Los Angeles, CA (KTOA)
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Username Protected wrote: I am a new member to BeechTalk. I own a '91 F33A. In June my family is moving from NYC to Kentfield, California. I will be flying my F33A out, and it will be my first trip across the country. I appreciate any tips, especially on take-out off and landings into high density altitude airports. My flight plan is basically V6 most of the way, and will try and make Cheyenne Wyoming or Scottsbluff Neb on the first day. Day 2 - fuel stops in Ogden UT and Sacramento Ca. For the near future I will be flying out of Gnoss Field in Marin County.
Andy Andy, I also live in NYC and think I recognize your tail number from HPN...which is where I do my GA flying. At any rate, welcome to BT. Great group of people here. I have done many coast to coast flights in small planes and like others have said, I think you are being a bit ambitious for your first day. Also, while you certainly can do the northern route in the summer, I highly suggest, for your first solo crossing such as this one, to take the southern route (unless you have a pressing need to do the northern route). Less mountains to deal with, etc. Regardless of what you end up doing, you will learn a lot...and have a blast while doing it. Let us know if you have any other specific questions. PS - if you want to meet up in NYC for a beer or 3 to discuss this stuff before you go, let me know. There is another BT'er on here who works in finance as well who has an A36...and we often meet up in the city to "hangar fly." Might be fun to chat about the route, etc...especially since I don't think he's done it before yet either. -Neal
_________________ Latitude Aviation Specializing in sales/acquisitions services for Bonanzas, Barons, and TBM's
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